The War in the Ukraine

Randomuser

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I remember when NAFO and westoids were mocking Russia for asking for help from Iran and NK. Yet both of them have achieve a bunch of significant victories which cannot be said of many western countries and their dogs. All despite being sanctioned to hell.

When you think about it, what gives them the right to look down on these two? Coz they are poorer? They just shoot you dead and take the gold bars on your body. Now who's poorer huh?

They were right when they say the west has a sort of caste system view of the world. Like Iran and NK are assumed to be poor and weak just because they aren't in the western caste. Too bad actual war cares not for that stuff.

As an investor, you want to get things for the right valuation. Well Iran and North Korea even more are heavily undervalued because we don't know much about them. Yet Russia saw the hidden value which has now been shown to the world. In contrast America and the west despite so called capitalist experts invested in overvalued overpriced crap for Ukraine and now are paying the price.
 
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Barefoot

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The US is already at the limit of what they can provide for Ukraine, and the deal is a sham and there is nothing in it for the US other than a social media/news win for Trump.

Sure;y it cant be meaningless

This deal not too long ago was billed as the peace deal that Zelensky refused to sign at that bust up at the Whitehouse, and then we had the subsequent stories about US pulling support for Ukraine (not to mention it got Europe to very publicly commit to more military spending).

Of course this is a deal between US and Ukraine, and as far as we know Russia is not a part of any such deal - or have Russia and US done a secret deal to divide Ukraine as happened once with Poland back in the day.

Will Russia simply ignore the deal and carry on with achieving its goals, will US sit idly by while its investment becomes increasingly occupied by Russia.

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iBBz

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Sure;y it cant be meaningless

This deal not too long ago was billed as the peace deal that Zelensky refused to sign at that bust up at the Whitehouse, and then we had the subsequent stories about US pulling support for Ukraine (not to mention it got Europe to very publicly commit to more military spending).

Of course this is a deal between US and Ukraine, and as far as we know Russia is not a part of any such deal - or have Russia and US done a secret deal to divide Ukraine as happened once with Poland back in the day.

Will Russia simply ignore the deal and carry on with achieving its goals, will US sit idly by while its investment becomes increasingly occupied by Russia.

etc
The deal is not between the US and Ukraine, but rather between the US and Zelensky, an illegitimate leader operating outside his time frame in violation of the Ukrainian constitution, so yes, Russia will simply ignore this deal and continue to prosecute the war as if no deal was signed. Once a new legitimate leader is elected, he or she can tell the US to go pound sand and the deal becomes void and null.
 

Soldier30

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Footage of the Russian Lancet-51 kamikaze drone striking the Ukrainian Krab self-propelled howitzer. The 155mm Krab self-propelled howitzer was developed in Poland in 2000, its firing range is up to 40 km, and it has a crew of 5 people. The video was filmed near the village of Stetskovka in the Kharkiv region. The Krab self-propelled howitzer, which provided fire support to Ukrainian units of the 41st Separate Mechanized Brigade and the 36th Marine Brigade. As a result of the Lancet-51 drone strike, a fire started in the Ukrainian Krab self-propelled howitzer.

 

Soldier30

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Footage of an attempted offensive by a Ukrainian mechanized group on the Vremevsky salient in the Zaporizhia region. The Ukrainian group consists of eight International MaxxPro armored personnel carriers. The MaxxPro armored personnel carrier is manufactured by the American company Navistar International and was adopted by the United States in 2007. According to the video, two MaxxPro armored personnel carriers ran over mines, after which the group was forced to retreat. The video has been shortened.

 

Barefoot

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The deal is not between the US and Ukraine, but rather between the US and Zelensky, an illegitimate leader operating outside his time frame in violation of the Ukrainian constitution, so yes, Russia will simply ignore this deal and continue to prosecute the war as if no deal was signed. Once a new legitimate leader is elected, he or she can tell the US to go pound sand and the deal becomes void and null.

Apparently Trump and Vance are talking about 100 days to close the gap between Russian and Ukrainian peace proposals.

So in 100 days Russia will halt its advance, US will send in survey teams with PMC escorts, and a bunch of neo-Nazis are gonna be sitting around twiddling their thumbs bored out of their tiny minds. What could go wrong?
 
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