The War in the Ukraine

sheogorath

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Kiev request Isreal in purchasing Iron Dome, this would certainly wouldn't happen at all, unfortunately for Ukrainian folks

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At this point they just are throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks and then lash out agressively to all of those don't, at least the "minor" players in the conflict, namely Hungary, or those countries they know they can lash out regardless because they will be forced to submit one way or the other (Germany, Turkey).

And its extremely erratic and will most likely cause some governments to just tell them to sod off and pull their support entirely.
 

Sardaukar20

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If I remember correctly when US retired their M60 and said they're up for sale at scrap metal prices the very first thing ROC did was rush over to the US and picked out a bunch of the best condition ones. Then after them several other countries came and did the same, each one of them getting the left overs.

By the end I imagine the M60 that still remain are in pretty poor condition indeed.

I'm not sure what good is more M60 for ROC, I doubt it can trade favorable with even Type 11 assault gun.
Well it is for the very same reason that the US is doing with regards to Russia. To supply unwanted weaponry to a proxy to hopefully bleed yet another enemy of America. The belligerent nations of NATO were quite happy to supply their junk stocks of old M113s, T-72s, BMPs, M109s, etc to Ukraine to keep the war going. They hope that the longer the war lasts, the more that Russia bleeds. This also helps to empty their military inventory of old stuff, and push the procurement of new stuff. Its a cynical and wonderful scheme for the Western MIC.
 

SampanViking

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With all the news of trade deals and general rapprochement between Russia and Turkey, it will be interesting to see what happens with the continued supply of the Bayrakter drones to the Ukraine or whether this suddenly all dries up!.......
 

FriedButter

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Reading Reddit is filled with seething cope. "We're totally gonna do this, do that, we're gonna help Ukraine even more, we're gonna..., we're gonna...."

In reality they are already doing everything they can without further harming themselves.

Quite of few of them want the West to send long range missiles so Ukraine can bomb Russian cities regardless of civilians. Taking off the mask to show how racist and xenophobic they are.

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Ukraine claims to be deploying US-made anti-ship missiles​

The Harpoons will complement Kiev’s own anti-ship capabilities, the defense minister has said
 

Soldier30

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In Donetsk, the Supreme Court sentenced foreign mercenaries to death. The British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim, who participated in the hostilities in Ukraine, were sentenced to death by the court.


In Ukraine, the Ukrainian multiple launch rocket system "Bureviy" with a caliber of 220 mm was noticed. The Bureviy MLRS is a multiple launch rocket system on the chassis of the Czech TATRA T815-7T3RC1 with a wheel formula of 8×8. The MLRS is an upgraded version of the Soviet MLRS 9K57 "Hurricane", developed in the early seventies. During the development, Bureviy was supposed to receive a modern digital fire control system that simplifies the production of data for firing and new means of communication. According to the developers, the MLRS can work in a single reconnaissance and strike circuits of the tactical link and show high performance, whether it is implemented or not is unknown. The launcher and missiles are borrowed unchanged from the basic MLRS "Hurricane", depending on the type of missile, a firing range of 5 to 35 km is provided.


There was a video of the strikes of the Russian army, on the soldiers of the Ukrainian army using anti-tank systems. Judging by the footage, in this episode, the Ukrainian ATGM "Stugna" is mainly used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The events shown in the video took place in Mariupol, in addition, the video gives an answer why there is so much destruction as a result of hostilities. The Ukrainian army actively uses residential buildings to shelter its military personnel.

 

4Runner

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Ukraine likely to end up looking a lot like Syria​

Hawks and realists both know that the conflict can only end with a negotiated settlement that satisfies nether side fully
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JUNE 9, 2022

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The war in Ukraine has been burning for more than 100 days. But outside of the West, the conflict is a “quiet” war – burning away somewhere over the horizon, but not consuming the same political focus as it does in Western Europe.

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found that two-thirds of the world’s population live in countries that are neutral or Russia-leaning when it comes to the Ukraine war. In other words, for most outside of the West, this war is someone else’s problem.

Its consequences, however, are not. The war has
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, raised energy prices worldwide and compounded global inflation. Many countries outside Europe are suffering grave consequences because of the war. The mood is shifting away from sympathy for Ukraine.

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I have only one question here: is Russia isolated?
 

supersnoop

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The javelin is an quite old military equipment and although that kind of equipment does require some specialty chips and sensors like mems accelerometers and bolometers but that doesn't seem out of reach for a fab like Skywater Technologies or Texas Instruments.
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So its seems some bullshit here and they don't want to say they run out of money for Ukraine already.

Actually this was discussed before in April or so, Biden had made a speech blaming China on shortages of supplies for manufacturing Stingers and Javelins.

It’s like China sanctioned themselves to create a chips shortage?

Hold on now…
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This data aligns with the anecdotal reports I’ve seen of Chinese manufacturers virtually cornering the market for older semiconductor manufacturing equipment.

Also from the article, this older equipment is the most commonly used for MEMS chips.

I believe the term from soccer is own-goal
 

pmc

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I agree with this the Kuznetsov is a money sink at this point much like the other 1970s/1980s Soviet ships (Kirov, Slava). The money shouldn’t be used towards the army though. The Russian Navy is in a much more precarious position right now especially because of the lack of air defense vessels.
They already MIG-29K for carrier. this carrier will likely need to be used for UCAV and helicopter testing. in tests multiple units needed.
 
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