The War in the Ukraine

FriedButter

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If it isn't clear at this point, @tabu is an Anti-Russian troll, much like @SolarWarden.
Just in the Russian Economy thread, he used the term 'vatnik' unironically. I don't think there's any need to engage this guy.

Not really a troll. More like someone who is having a pro-Ukrainian meltdown and is in copium mode after the elections since this person is almost never on this thread.
 

segregator

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So the Russians have an 10:1 artillery advantage, and they recently did an exchange where the Russians exchange 1 dead Russian for 10 dead Ukrainians. And you still believe this. Ukraine's Kursk "offensive" is just Krynky 2.0.


The dam was clearly blown up with explosives installed by demolition engineers. And it was located in Ukrainian held territory when it blew up. But of course it was the Russians which blew it up. :rolleyes:

...and Ukrainians just conveniently had few drones filming how "Russians" blew it up :D
 

Soldier30

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An episode of the movement of a column and landing of troops of the Russian BMP-2 in Novoivanovka, Kursk region of Russia. The BMP-2 as part of a column consisting of a T-72 tank and five BMP-2s broke through to Ukrainian positions in the settlements of Zeleny Shlyakh and Novoivanovka. The column split into two parts, during the movement of the column one of the tanks was hit by a strike, presumably by a drone, it is not clear from the video how much the tank was damaged. The video shows the landing of troops from the Russian BMP-2 in the village of Novoivanovka and the attack of a Ukrainian grenade launcher from behind a building, as noted in the video. The BMP-2 was attacked twice, the first grenade launcher strike was tangential, the second grenade launcher shot into the ground. The BMP-2 was not damaged and landed troops.

 

tabu

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If it isn't clear at this point, @tabu is an Anti-Russian troll, much like @SolarWarden.
Just in the Russian Economy thread, he used the term 'vatnik' unironically. I don't think there's any need to engage this guy.
Vatnik is everywhere. In Germany, Russia, Ukraine, etc. It is a type of person who is a shield citizen and not of high intelligence.

You can ignore me because I am pro-Ukrainian. But I am not blind and I see many mistakes on the Ukrainian and Russian sides. This is a fratricidal war. Ukrainians were mentally more Russians than Ukrainians 25 years ago, I was very often in this country for many years. For 20 years Kiev was a city where I almost never heard residents speak Ukrainian.

This war started when Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs did not want to divide the markets. Unfortunately, Putin has a lion's share everywhere and the propaganda machine started to work. Ukrainians were stylized as Nazis and nationalists. This brainwashing went on everywhere for 7-10 years, including in Germany on RT TV. Now the hatred is great. Sorry for this off-topic.
 

tabu

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So the Russians have an 10:1 artillery advantage, and they recently did an exchange where the Russians exchange 1 dead Russian for 10 dead Ukrainians.

Not anymore, it's down to 1 to 2. And the Russians have more Ukrainian corpses because they are advancing and the battlefield is left to them.
 

Heresy

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Vatnik is everywhere. In Germany, Russia, Ukraine, etc. It is a type of person who is a shield citizen and not of high intelligence.

You can ignore me because I am pro-Ukrainian. But I am not blind and I see many mistakes on the Ukrainian and Russian sides. This is a fratricidal war. Ukrainians were mentally more Russians than Ukrainians 25 years ago, I was very often in this country for many years. For 20 years Kiev was a city where I almost never heard residents speak Ukrainian.

This war started when Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs did not want to divide the markets. Unfortunately, Putin has a lion's share everywhere and the propaganda machine started to work. Ukrainians were stylized as Nazis and nationalists. This brainwashing went on everywhere for 7-10 years, including in Germany on RT TV. Now the hatred is great. Sorry for this off-topic.

Regardless of what the word Vatnik used to mean prior to the Ukrainian War, today, in the West, it is explicitly a pejorative slur against ethnic Russians. If you're interested in discussing the Ukrainian War in good faith, you don't use that word. Period.

Second, there is absolutely a strain of Nazism (or Neo-Nazism if you prefer) that runs through Ukrainian society and has penetrated the upper echelons of Ukrainian civilian leadership and soldiers on the ground. This is undeniable.
 

W20

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On September 22, 2023, the Canadian Parliament gave a standing ovation, twice, to Yaroslav Hunka, a veteran of the 14th Waffen SS

It is known that the kyiv regime (installed by the State Department after the 2014 coup d'état) is made up of people nostalgic for the 14 th and furious nationalists of Volynia

as is logical because the tools available on the ground are always used

you cannot for example entrust the destruction of Syria to the French Ornithological Society

The West always works with 'the best':

the Kosovar-Albanian mafia, some wahhabi yihadist, some nostalgics of the 14th ...

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tabu

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Nazis were and are of different nationalities and there are not so many of them in Ukraine as it is hyped in the Russian media. Otherwise there were not so many Jews on the side of the Ukrainian armed forces. Even the son of the chief ravain of Ukraine gave his life in the war for independence.

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Index

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Nazis were and are of different nationalities and there are not so many of them in Ukraine as it is hyped in the Russian media. Otherwise there were not so many Jews on the side of the Ukrainian armed forces. Even the son of the chief ravain of Ukraine gave his life in the war for independence.

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Nazism is an ideology, saying there being many Jews on the side of Ukraine meaning they can't be nazist is like saying Mugabe can't be racist because he's black or China can't be socialist because it's neither German nor Russian...
 
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