The War in the Ukraine

iBBz

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Would crash look better than destroyed on the ground by missile attack? Seems to me to be about the same. If it is not a coincidence why bother with this cover up?

The timing does line up very well. Missile strike on airfield, F-16 pilot killed, F-16 crash all pretty much at the same time on the 26th.
Well a crash is due to a pilot error or a malfunction. Hit by a missile means credit for Russia and possible negative credit for Western arms sales and prestige. The suspicious thing here is how fast they jumped on the microphones to announce this loss.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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A Ukrainian activist and one of the largest suppliers of FPV drones has provided some details about the lack of defense coordination in Pokrovsk. It appears that there is also systematic false reporting and lying within the Ukrainian chain of command.
This is the weakness of forward deployed forces. Once the shell is broken there's nothing to hold back the surge and other parts of the forward deployed shell are at risk of being flanked and or encircled.

Happened historically many times too.
 

Tam

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M113 taken out in Korenovo this one went out with a big explosion. Taken out by Lancet.


A lot of the images of destroyed Ukrainian vehicles posted were from Ukrainians themselves. Here is one with a destroyed M109.

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FAB-3000 takes care of urban development in Chasiv Yar.

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Two more Cougars taken out in Kursk region. This should go down in history as The Battle of the Kursk Bulge.

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Atlant Battalion hits a Ukrainian BTR-70 in the Pokrovsk direction.

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The Russian flag is raised on the Novogrodovkaskaya no. 1 mine. The terracone should give a strategic high ground advantage for many miles.

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FAB-3000 hits Ukrainian PVD in Kupyansk.

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Maxxpro taken out and damaged in the Kursk region. This appears captured, and it's previous occupants suffered an unfortunate fate.

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Ukrainian defenses appeared to have collapsed in Karlivka. Russian flag raised. Credit goes to the Somalia Battalion.

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Precise artillery strikes takes out Ukrainian ammo depot in the Kursk border region. Should note that arty units of both the 155th Marine Brigade and the Obtf Kaskad are operating in this front.

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Ukrainian vehicle taken out by FPV from the Beaver unit. This unit is currently deployed in the Kharkhiv front in it's last known location, not sure if it's been deployed to the Kursk region.

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Ukrainian mobile UAV control point gets taken out by a Lancet.

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Russians reported overrunning Selidovo and Druzhba. Stelamakhova is captured. It appears Ukrainian defenses have collapsed in the South Donetsk.

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Russians advanced west of Pischane.

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Stealthflanker

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Does not sound too credible. Don't they use NATO IFF? How come they never shot down other aircraft with Soviet IFF with the Patriot?

Probably they dont have Soviet fighters operating in the vicinity or they actually did but no reports or attributed to other system.

Anyway IFF itself is not always reliable, they are also subject to same disturbances and constrain as primary radar. Even something as simple as maneuvering can prevent interrogation as the maneuver can shroud the IFF antenna, or IFF got saturated or even give wrong position of friendlies.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Now the claims is that the F-16 was shot down by a Patriot in a friendly fire incident


They will claim divine intervention and Alien attack before the admit the Russians killed it.

I’m sure all the other F16 pilots are massively encouraged by seeing their recently deceased colleague being thrown under the bus to save LockMart’s blushes.
 
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