And yet Russian army is pretty much in same position (frontline map) it was this time last year. Just imagine if everything that was supposed to go to Ukraine actually went to Ukraine... and were allowed to hit Russian territory from the get-go instead of fighting with one hand tied.
The War in the Ukraine
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What is estimate for Ukrainian Casualties? If Russia is firing 10 times more artillery and also dominating the firing of Air Launched Bombs, I would assume there atleast that many casualties on the Ukrainian side as well.
So you continue with this kind of argument. It is pretty obvious the original intent of the SMO was not capturing the whole of Ukraine to begin with. Listen to Putin's speeches justifying the SMO and tell me where he stated capture of territory was the objective. In fact he said the opposite. Perhaps you would rather do like the US did in Iraq or Afghanistan, a lightning invasion, and then decades of morass.
Both NATO and Russia have been holding back for rather obvious reasons. If conquest of the whole of Ukraine was the objective why didn't Russia start mass recruitment earlier? They did not even bother doing a stop loss order.
It may come to that, the conquest of the entirety of Ukraine, but it certainly was not and still is not the objective.
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manqiangrexue
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I think you're confused about who has what hands. Russia is the country fighting with one hand tied, reserved to deter other enemies, and that's not even talking about their nuclear capabilities.
Ukraine is the one fighting with everything it has and 30 other people's hands helping it... you're actually imagining a situation where it has 60 other hands helping it instead.
How does Ukraine still have electricity?
It is rationed. They only have power at certain times of the day. The Russians basically blew up nearly all the coal, gas, and hydropower plants in Ukraine. They destroyed the generator turbines and control rooms. The only major sources of electricity left are their nuclear power plants and electricity imports from Poland and Romania. Poland already has some of the highest prices for electricity in Europe. So I doubt this will make it better.
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Only way Russia can lose is by blitzing through. If they commit the whole army, start sending in strategic bombers right above the front etc, they can drive the AFU on a rout. But the thing about a rout is that most people running away survive. And then you'll have a Russian army with much more taken land but with more alive Ukrainians ready to fight again. Russians probably lose a few dozen bombers and a whole lot of fighters.
Then, why wouldn't NATO pull a reverse Vietnam/Korea war and straight up attack the overextended Russian army, encircle and destroy them en masse, like what happened to US army in Korea? Despite threats, Russia would very unlikely use nukes, and an offensive against overextended Russians would happen so fast that Russia could not recieve material support in time to stop a disaster.
As I said, the only way Russia can lose, and therefore what NATO desparately want them to do.
Instead, they can just sit close on current lines, let Ukraine commit human waves, and then delete those waves. The human resources in Ukraine are going to run out eventually. It's a much lower risk strategy, and the Russians have also committed to that strategy. Better to see it through than do last minute changes.
yeah, sometimes I cant fathom the way Russia waging this war, for example, when news popped up about the risk of nuclear disaster due to attacks against Zaporozhie Power Plant, I just learned that the Russians still allowed the plant to provide electricity to the Ukrainian side after controlling it for months, like what the hell they were thinking, they held one of the most critical infrastructures of the enemy and still let them benefit from it? It's like them Russians intentionally shoot themselves in the foot
Winning the Hearts and Minds. If you intent to occupy a long term, better treat those people in your occupation zone well. As well as those nearby. You'll find them to be more cooperative.