The War in the Ukraine

This is the second time in a week I saw a video from Ukrainian side were they are fueling up a car with vegetable oil. Yes before you ask diesel engines can in fact run on cooking oil with no issues, so this would work. It's just food grade oil is much more expensive than diesel so normally in peacetime you only see people do this with left over deep fryer oil.

The fact that this is has been recorded on camera multiple times would indicate serious issue with fuel supplies in Ukraine.

RottenPanzer said:

How quickly does Turkey produce its Bayraktar UCAV drone? Because Turkey only had like 100+ in service in their armed forces

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Going by total known in service (~300), years in service (7), it's ~ 4 per month.

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From TASS news agency regarding the situation of the city of Svyatogorsk in the DPR area

Interesting that the Russians allowed some of the remnants of Ukrainian battalions to withdrawn from the area

RottenPanzer said:

Please provide source to original URL link.

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Temstar said:

Well if you hide your jets in sheds of course they won't be destroyed until you actually decide to fly them.

More curiously how is it that this friendly fire happened? When you look at number of sorties RuAF is making daily vs numbers that Ukrainian air force is making the numbers are decidedly one sided. Yet RuAF rarely loses any planes these days but this guy decide to take it to the air today and is promptly shot down by friendly fire?

RuAF got some special way to avoid air defense radar or something?

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Probably the IFF of the Ukrainian SU-27 was not working or switched off. With the number of RuAF aircraft in the air, Ukrainian air defense would likely thought it was Russian jet.

supersnoop said:

Going by total known in service (~300), years in service (7), it's ~ 4 per month.

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I saw somewhere that Turkey ramped up production after Karabakh war and now able to produce about 30 Bayraktars per month.

lcloo said:

Probably the IFF of the Ukrainian SU-27 was not working or switched off. With the number of RuAF aircraft in the air, Ukrainian air defense would likely thought it was Russian jet.

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It's probably not the first and not the last friendly fire incident in that conflict. With salvage operations, it's becoming even more difficult to distinguish troops from the equipment they have for a while. Now with the input of west equipments, it's becoming easier on the ground but for zooming su-25 in manpad range or flankers at medium altitude... it's quite impossible for isolated pockets of Ukrainians to make identification wisely.

RottenPanzer said:

From TASS news agency regarding the situation of the city of Svyatogorsk in the DPR area

Interesting that the Russians allowed some of the remnants of Ukrainian battalions to withdrawn from the area

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Ukraine have it's own way to deal with ''deserter''. We have seen video of soldiers refusing to fight waiting to be judged. Don't know if they will have the same treatment. Would be interesting to see what kind of equipment have been left behind.

The fiery inquisitor of Russia TOS-1A "Solntsepyok" is already in Ukraine. The Russian Ministry of Defense showed the work of TOS-1A "Solntsepyok" in Ukraine. The TOS-1A heavy flamethrower system is rightfully considered one of the deadliest weapons of the Russian army. The weapon is truly terrible as 24 rockets with a caliber of 220 mm. literally burn everything around. The thermobaric mixture of projectiles creates a cloud of explosive mixture and then undermines it. After detonation, the pressure rises sharply and then drops, the pressure drop leads to a guaranteed death of the enemy over an area of up to 40,000 square meters.


The air defense of the Ukrainian army shot down its Su-27P aircraft, aircraft number 38, belonged to the 9th brigade, based in Ozerny, Zhytomyr region. Earlier, the Ukrainian media claimed that a Russian plane was shot down, the situation cleared up when eyewitnesses photographed the wreckage of the plane.

Atomicfrog said:

Ukraine have it's own way to deal with ''deserter''. We have seen video of soldiers refusing to fight waiting to be judged. Don't know if they will have the same treatment. Would be interesting to see what kind of equipment have been left behind.

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Unless Ukraine is executing any and every deserter then it’s probably going to be a slap on the hand for the majority. I really doubt they have sufficient resources during wartime to continue housing the increasing amount of people they are arresting from nonaligned civilians to the military branch.

FriedButter said:

Unless Ukraine is executing any and every deserter then it’s probably going to be a slap on the hand for the majority. I really doubt they have sufficient resources during wartime to continue housing the increasing amount of people they are arresting from nonaligned civilians to the military branch.

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It diminish confidence of your troops a lot... don't know if they will send back to the front or putting them in reserve. If they mix them with other units they can influence them to do the same if the situation worsen. It's quite hard to deal with and even more with logistic routes risky to make rotation.