The War in the Ukraine

Zichan

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Admiral James Stavridis demonstrating that he never looked at the map of Ukraine prior to 2022. He makes the claim in the video that Russia controlled 15% of Ukraine prior to the war and took just 5% since the invasion in February.

Yet, according to the Ukrainian government statement from 2019 Russia controlled 7% of Ukraine. And a few days ago they made the statement that Russia now controls 20%.

And CNN takes his opinion and predictions on the Ukraine war seriously.

 
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Zichan

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RuAF got some special way to avoid air defense radar or something?
I think that’s called IFF. There’s both cooperative (which can be deceived) and non-cooperative as an extra layer of security. It’s a matter of training and following proper rules of engagement.
 

RottenPanzer

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I think we can all agree that the total number of aircrafts that was shot down by Russians was an exaggeration since the number that was reported by Russian MoD has exceeded the total number of aircraft inventories of Ukraine Air Force
 

plawolf

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What's with Ukrainian fascinations of holding out in industrial area?
First at Mariupol and the second in Severodonetsk.
This situation could have been preventable if they just withdrawn from Donbass/Luhanks to a more better position


Pretty sure Ukrainians already claimed to have crossed Severodonetsk river from Kharkov theatre for the past couple of weeks ago and most of them from what i know have been repelled by the Russians

I think it’s to do with the fact industrial sectors are by coincidence of design, much more suitable for defence, especially against heavy weapons.

Civilian housing walls will get easily turned into Swiss cheese by even infantry small arms fire, whereas factory walls are literally made out of stronger stuff.

Industrial areas, especially huge factory complex’s like Mariupol steelworks also have enclosed roofs, rendering drone operation largely ineffective, which is provably a massive boon to defenders pended in without heavy weapons as otherwise the Russians can just use drone spotters to pick them off at leisure and/or keep troops pinned down and isolated for fear of being spotted by drones, thus allowing them to be destroyed in detail.

Well if you hide your jets in sheds of course they won't be destroyed until you actually decide to fly them.

More curiously how is it that this friendly fire happened? When you look at number of sorties RuAF is making daily vs numbers that Ukrainian air force is making the numbers are decidedly one sided. Yet RuAF rarely loses any planes these days but this guy decide to take it to the air today and is promptly shot down by friendly fire?

RuAF got some special way to avoid air defense radar or something?

I think it’s simply a matter of operating altitudes. RuAF seem to be staying high. Which renders Ukrainian air defences largely impotent as the Russians have made a concerted effort to hunt down and kill Ukrainian long and medium range SAMs.

Most of the SAMs Ukrainian have left in the east are more likely to be MANPADs and other short range low altitude stuff. What medium and long range SAMs they do have left are probably also only daring to operate in passive mode as any active emissions is very likely to result in speedy fire death curtesy of Russian ARMs and/or other missiles.

NATO is probably providing them with off board sensor and maybe even targeting data assist via their AWACS and similar aircraft flying in NATO airspace, which is also probably why the Ukrainians still have as much of their airforce left as they do, since I think after early losses, the Russians are pretty reluctant to send aircraft too far west, as the closer they get to NATO AWACS, the more likely Ukrainian SAMs are going to start popping out of nowhere without any ground based radar emissions forewarning and from well outside of optical detection range.

However, the further east you go, the less effective such NATO CEC-lite is going to be, which also goes for IFF (since you need to actively emit to do IFF interrogations).

Add to that the fact that the Ukrainian can only send out lone birds, meaning they are almost certainly employing standard lone wolf passive hunting tactics of staying low to try to avoid enemy radar, while also maximising the contrast to give their own IRST the best chance to detect something passively; and it’s a wonder the Ukrainians have not shot down more of their own jets in all honesty.
 

Shadow_Whomel

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I think we can all agree that the total number of aircrafts that was shot down by Russians was an exaggeration since the number that was reported by Russian MoD has exceeded the total number of aircraft inventories of Ukraine Air Force
Is it already greater than the number inherited by Ukraine from the Soviet Union or is it greater than the pre-war Ukrainian establishment?
 

plawolf

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I think we can all agree that the total number of aircrafts that was shot down by Russians was an exaggeration since the number that was reported by Russian MoD has exceeded the total number of aircraft inventories of Ukraine Air Force
Not necessarily as there have been rumours of NATO Mig29s and Su25s being disassembled and trucked into Ukraine to either be reassembled whole, or used as parts to restore disabled aircraft to combat operations.


Seems the whole "Severodonetsk recaptured" was bs from Kiev


Well who could have guessed? It’s not like they have been pulling these fake-it-till-you-make it BS since the very start. Only problem is they are getting further and further away from ‘making it’ with each passing day and stupid Twitter-objective oriented offensives. :rolleyes:
 

RottenPanzer

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Is it already greater than the number inherited by Ukraine from the Soviet Union or is it greater than the pre-war Ukrainian establishment?
I would say pre-war Ukrainian establishment, in regards of Soviet Union i don't know how many airframes that they were inherited from it
 
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