The War in the Ukraine

SolarWarden

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Uncle SAM dumping garbage tier weapons into Ukraine again.

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Israel is getting rid of the Patriot batteries in favor of the David's Sling system.
David Sling's missile is much cheaper than PAC-2 missile and DS launcher can carries 12 missiles unlike the PAC-2 launcher which carries 4. It seems you need reminding that it was a PAC-2 missile, same PAC-2 Israel uses, that took down Russia's most advance AWACS over the Sea of Azov revealing PAC-2's much greater range than the 160kms. Also, US can just add a PAC-3 launcher to those batteries that will likely go to Ukraine. So lets see 8 batteries that is around 48-64 launchers which means you can deploy the German launchers near the front like in Kharkiv and those flankers dropping glide bombs will now be well within PAC-2 range.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
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They may prefer to play it safe:
First gather proof, that go to UN and make the case for a no fly zone, get support from the world but get vetoed by we know who, and than establish it and shoot them down
Indeed, even the US has to make a case in UN before setting up no fly zones such as Iraq in the name of "preventing" ethnic clansing of Kurds from Sadam, or Serbia "protecting" Kosovo Albanians. It doesn't have to have UNSC approval just like US invasion of Iraq claiming "self defence", it just need to log a case of self defence.
 

Kich

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US in negotiations for Israeli PAC batteries to send to Ukraine


Huge if it goes through. Right now 3 Patriot batteries with a SAMP-T has kept VKS from having air superiority over the frontlines this would also put a huge dent in cruise missile and shaheed attacks. You can add a PAC-3 launcher from US to these batteries incase of BM attack.
These might be the old PAT system that Israel was talking about decommissioning. Look it up. You will find plenty of artcles talking about it.
Also it won't make sense for Israel to get rid off vital air defense systems when
  1. The are running out of Iron dome systems. Also look that up.
  2. They might be preparing to launch a war against Hez in Lebanon.
I'm highly convinced these are old systems that Israel was planning on trashing which means 30+ years old and defective parts
 

Tam

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Russians launched combined drone and missile attack again, aimed at airfields. The MoD also reports the shot down of two Ukrainian MiG-29s.

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Hideout occupied by Ukrainian troops is wiped out by a LMUR missile.

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Russian assault forces have entered Niu York.

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Ukrainian man in drag to avoid the draft.

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Another Ukrainian shelter gets taken out by LMUR missile.

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HIMARS was tracked to a hanger by UAV, and subsequently the hanger gets a visit from an Iskander.

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Another footage of ODAB-1500 striking a Ukrainian transhipment point in Lvovo, Kherson, also acting as a Ukrainian UAV operators nest. The fact that there's two Russian UAVs operate in the area demonstrates the sheer density of Russian drone dominance. Simply put they are everywhere.

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Another Baba Yaga taken down by ramming.

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Ukrainian UAV operators were spotted in the right side of the Dniepr. Their hideout gets an express delivery from Russian FPV drones. Intercepted radio communique indicates four Ukrainian military personnel may have been killed.

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Ukrainian command post --- identified by all sorts of communication antenna on the roof --- gets a visit from a FAB. In Zaporozhye.

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ZALA UAV identified and tracked a Ukrainian transport to a house. Two Molinya FPV drones were dispatched to take it out. By the 106th VDV, which means Seversk direction.

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Kharkhiv region. FABs, ODABs, and RBK-500s arrive on forest plantation where Ukrainian forces are taking cover.

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Krasnogorovka is now almost a lost cause for the Ukrainians as the Russians squeeze on the north western quarters.

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Russians advancing towards Konstantinovka (village). Ukrainian artillery and ammo depot taken out by the 238th Artillery Brigade using an M-46 field gun.

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Center Group (Group Tsentir) advances towards Torestk.

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Glide bombs arrive at Varvarovka, occupied by the 102nd Brigade of the AFU.

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Ukrainian howitzer gets taken out by Lancet in the Serebryanka area.

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Ukrainian ammo depot gets Krasnopoled.

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FH-70 howitzer taken out by Lancet in the Kharkhiv direction.

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Ukrainian military vehicle tried to hide under a concrete roof in the Kharkhiv front. Still got hit by an artillery shell nonetheless.

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Another Ukrainian howitzer gets taken out by Lancet. Possibly Vostok Group.

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Hidden Ukrainian tank gets hit by the 14th SPN.

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gelgoog

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David Sling's missile is much cheaper than PAC-2 missile and DS launcher can carries 12 missiles unlike the PAC-2 launcher which carries 4. It seems you need reminding that it was a PAC-2 missile, same PAC-2 Israel uses, that took down Russia's most advance AWACS over the Sea of Azov revealing PAC-2's much greater range than the 160kms.
Is this the A-50U which supposedly crashed over the Sea of Azov which no one can seem to find the wreckage for? This is Il-76s shot down at Gostomel Airport level of Ukrainian propaganda.
An A-50U does seem to have been shot down at Rostov, overland not over the Sea of Azov, but that seems to have been done with the help of a modified S-200 missile.

Also, US can just add a PAC-3 launcher to those batteries that will likely go to Ukraine. So lets see 8 batteries that is around 48-64 launchers which means you can deploy the German launchers near the front like in Kharkiv and those flankers dropping glide bombs will now be well within PAC-2 range.
You probably think SAMs are LEGOs. Except they are not. Plus even if you upgraded the launchers it is not like the US can produce enough PAC-3 missiles. Not at the rate Ukraine typically fires them.
 

blackjack21

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Well.....Tonight was interesting, that we can say Zelensky is going to be dealing with Trump next year, the guy that seems upset about billions being thrown at Ukraine.
 
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