The War in the Ukraine

plawolf

Lieutenant General
It’s amusing how the same people are basically copy pasting the same message, only bothering to change the name of the latest development.

Haha! Russian collapse is imminent now that Javelin, Leo’s, Abrams, Patriots, HIMIRS, ATACMs, able to use NATO weapons on Russian soil is here! When that fails, I suppose they got F16s to copy and paste in to repeat the same tired old make believe message.

For those who think firing a few missiles into Russia will magically bring their logistics and economy down. How many missiles have Russia spammed into Ukraine? Has Ukraine collapsed yet? And how many NATO missiles do you think Ukraine has to shoot into Russia?

With the Russians being Russians, the Ukrainians will almost certain score some notable hits for their fans to cheer about. But those hits will produce minimal impact on the battlefield, just like all the previous wunderwaffe silver bullets.

NATO and Ukraine grand strategy basically boils down to maximum escalation to try and make the Russians angry and step outside their comfort zone. Because with the way the war is going right now, there is only one inevitable outcome, which is a total Russian victory after exhausting NATO of arms and ammo and/or Ukraine of military aged males, whichever comes first.

A Ukrainian defeat is basically inevitable. So the goal now is to make it as costly for Russia as possible. Hence all the provocations aimed at trying to get Putin to put political pressure on the military to hurry up and thus suffer more losses than necessary.

The Ukraine gambit is supposed to be a knockout blow against Russia so it is not only powerless to help China when America makes its move in the east, but that it is also so reduced that the rest of NATO is comfortable sending their military across the globe to fight China alongside the Americans. A Russia that comes out of the Ukrainian war with a bigger and stronger military and economy is absolutely not what America and NATO bargained on. Hence the increasingly desperate escalating escalation trying to achieve the impossible. They would absolutely be talking about using nukes if Russia isn’t a nuclear power able to nuke them back.
 

Tam

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Missile strikes on Ukraine's Nikolaev airfield. Two hangers were destroyed. A preview of what the Russians will do when the F-16s arrive on this airfield.

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Ukrainian drone shot down over Tartarstan.

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Another Ukrainian Osa-M AD system taken out by Lancet in the Kharkhiv region.

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Russian drone used to drop a POM-2 remote antipersonnel mine. Call it a jumping mine.

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A van used by Ukraine's TCC burned by people resisting the draft.

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A prisoner exchange takes place between Russia and Ukraine brokered by the UAE. 75 prisoners were exchanged for 75. Bodies were exchanged too, but not equal, 212 Ukrainian bodies returned for 45 Russian ones.

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Russians captured the city council building of Krasnogorovka.

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Ukrainian Akasya SPG knocked out by Lancet in the Kharkhiv region.

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Lancet hits a trailer carrying Ukrainian military vehicles behind front lines.

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Two Ukrainian howitzers taken out near Novosynove by the 1st Tank Army. The first is taken out by Lancet, the second by Krasnopol.

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Ukrainian 2S7 Pion taken out by two Lancet strikes in Vesele. This is a 203mm howitzer. Lancet operators are the Black Hussars SPN unit. A Pion is rare for the Ukrainians despite being a Soviet relic.

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Ukrainian ammo depot taken out by artillery in Velyka Novosilka.

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TOS burning Ukrainian positions in Chasiv Yar.

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New version of the NARS S-8 now in action called the S-80FP.

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Krasnopol strikes on Ukrainian strongholds in the Kharkhiv front.

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Kornet ATGM sent into a window where a Ukrainian sniper is.

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Destroyed Ukrainian Gvozdika SPG filmed by a Ukrainian soldier.

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Damage to apartment buildings in Belgorod by Ukrainian drone.

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Textbook kill against a Ukrainian Grad MLRS by a Krasnopol from a MSTA-B. By the 238th Artillery Brigade. Victim is in the village of Konstantinovka.

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FPV drones from the 39th Brigade hitting Ukrainian strongholds near the village of Konstantinovka. You can see where the Russians are heading now.

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Russian Grad and TOS saturating fire on Ukrainian positions near Belogorovka.

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Oil facility in Temyruk hit by Ukrainian UAV tank. Three fuel tanks burned but under control now.

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Missile strikes in Kiev.

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FABs, ODABs and artillery destroying and destroying through Ukrainian defensive positions in Volchansk.

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Russian MoD reports 29 Ukrainian drones and five Neptun antiship missiles intercepted and destroyed. The Neptun is the Ukrainian derivative of the Soviet-Russian Uran antiship missile as in Uranus, as referred to as the X-35U. Both Urans and Neptuns have been used by each other to attack each other's AD systems, namely S-300s, with some degree of success.

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Rare Ukrainian M577 mobile command post gets hit in the Battle of Volchansk. This is a modified M119.


Ukrainian artillery piece hit by an M46 130mm gun. Rare but perhaps the Russians still has an inventory of this vintage weapon dating before the fifties. This is extremely powerful for an old gun, with 27km for unassisted shells and 40km for assisted one. Not a true howitzer, the gun is unable to achieve elevation higher than 45 degrees. By the 238th Brigade.

 

iBBz

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Why to Belgorod? Belgorod is pretty isolated and far away from the main fronts. They would unload there only the material that is used in the small Khakov front

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Also, is there no railway connection of Lugansk with Russia? It is impossible to find current map, but at least in the past such railway existed. I suppose at least Lugansk has to be connected with Russia, and therefore it is more logical to unload there.,

Now that they recovered Avdivka they could in theory also unload in Donetsk (if you check the map, when Ukraine dominated Avdivka the line was controlled by them basically

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And finally, Russia also built a line from Rostov, to Mariupol, to Melitopol and from there to Crimea. To provide redundancy in the supply of Crimea
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So basically Russia can unload everything they may need in Luhansk, Melitopol, Mariupol, Donekst and posibly many small towns along those lines.

I am 100% sure that nothing for Donbass front is unloaded in Belgorod and I also doubt that Rostov is used for that, when you have so many places to do it within the new regions, that are closer to the front
Ukraine targets civilians in Belgorod. Patrick Lancaster as well as RT have reported on this multiple times in the past.

Here's an example.

 

Santamaria

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Ukraine targets civilians in Belgorod. Patrick Lancaster as well as RT have reported on this multiple times in the past.

Here's an example.

Yes, this is totally true.

I know Ukraine target civilians in Belgorod, they have done it during all the conflict. There exist a lot of proofs, starting for the last crazy attack that destroyed a building.

But with my message I simply wanted to point that for Russia does not have sense to unload military material in Belgorod, and that the "permission of the West" to attack Russian territory will not change logistic in any meaningful and strategic way
 

Cult Icon

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Ukraine has already moved a lot of troops to the Kharkiv sector and now the Russian advance is bogged down in positional fighting. Among the Ukr units are the NATO-trained & equipped brigades that were burnt out and likely fully or partially rebuilt.

Zelensky on 5/29/24 claimed that the Russians will launch another local offensive in the Sumy front to tie down Ukrainian ground units.

This coincides with the Ukraine-NATO propaganda operation to get US approval to strike targets inside Russia with missiles.

This makes it unclear whether or not the Russians will activate the Sumy region.
 

Soldier30

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An episode of the battle in Ukraine, filmed simultaneously by the Russian and Ukrainian armies in the Avdeevsky direction. The footage was shortened and filmed from a drone and a Bradley infantry fighting vehicle. The video shows an attempt to land infantry with a Ukrainian M2A2 Bradley ODS-SA infantry fighting vehicle. The landing failed, the Ukrainian M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle was attacked by soldiers of the 15th separate guards motorized rifle brigade of Russia. Damaged by a mortar shell, the crew of the M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle attempted to evacuate, but was unable to due to constant attacks from Russian kamikaze FPV drones. After which another M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle was called in for help, which was also attacked by a drone, but evacuated some of the military personnel.

 

Soldier30

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The first footage of the use of Russian FPV drones in the Black Sea, intended for protection against naval drones of the Ukrainian army. Previously, the Russian army used predominantly firearms to repel attacks by Ukrainian naval drones. The video shows an attack by an unknown model of Russian FPV drone on a Ukrainian maritime drone MAGURA V5. The drone was drifting, waiting for a target to attack. The exact shooting location and date have not been announced.

 

TK3600

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What will happen to Volchansk after the war? As far as I know Russia did not formally annex territory of Kharkov oblast yet.
 

taxiya

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What will happen to Volchansk after the war? As far as I know Russia did not formally annex territory of Kharkov oblast yet.
Establish a no-fly, no-walk, no-peek zone inside Ukraine just like the west did in Iraq, Yogoslavia, Syria, Libia etc. without any (UN) legal base. Or military base in Ukraine as part of the peace treaty, like US in Japan and Germany. What the west did in the past many decades has given everybody a blank check of doing the same thing to any pro-west country and even western countries themselves. Hehe, the Chinese saying "出来混总是要还的".

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There is a chance and some western mouthpiece have suggested Ukraine to give up the territory that Russia has taken. If Ukraine take that choice it will get off the hook and able to join NATO without triggerring article 5. That is not something Russia want. By having a foothold in the not-annexed area of Ukraine, Ukraine is kept on the hook forever. And I suppose Russia will not officially annex such area just to serve as a materialistic garantee in case of a final peace treaty is signed. Another way of keeping the hook is cease-fire without treaty.
 
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