The War in the Ukraine

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Ukraine announces deaths of EU, Australian foreign fighters​


International Legion of Defense of Ukraine thanks French, German, Dutch and Australian volunteers lost in combat.

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A funeral ceremony for Ukrainian soldiers killed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine | Yuriy Dyanchyshyn/AFP via Getty Images

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June 4, 2022

Ukraine on Saturday announced the deaths of four foreign military volunteers who joined the fight against the Russian invasion, three of whom were from the EU.

“We wish to remember and honor our fallen brothers, who travelled to Ukraine to join the bravest of the brave and fight shoulder to shoulder with the defenders of Ukraine,” the International Legion of Defense of Ukraine said in a
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The statement said that the volunteers came from Australia, Germany, France and the Netherlands, and thanked them for their “ultimate sacrifice.” The statement identified the men as Ronald Vogelaar, Michael O’Neill, Björn Benjamin Clavis and Wilfried Blériot but did not specify the time or circumstances of their deaths.

On Friday, Paris confirmed that a French citizen fighting in Ukraine had been killed in combat, according to
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The legion was created in the early stages of the war as Ukraine sought to beef up its military forces with
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willing to join the fight against the Russians.

On its
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, the legion said that citizens from Denmark, Latvia, Poland, Croatia, the Netherlands, Canada, Israel and the U.K. were among its ranks.
Why aren't they repatriating the bodies?
 

anzha

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The more time pass, the less help bill they will get from the US... Biden getting less and less leverage at home with all the internal problems growing like weeds. Food prices, fuel prices, gun regulations turning haywire, etc... If they don't send a bunch of them in the next month, they will never send them more or less. Not sure where the russians will be in one month...

There's only a smaller number of Republicans opposing the equipment for Ukraine. This has been a strangely (for modern American politics) bipartisan support for the war. Even with a House and Senate flip this year, I would not expect to see that support end until 2024 if /when Trump or a similar minded person were to take the White House. If it is anyone other than the smaller faction of the GOP, I doubt support for the war would end in 2024.

The American establishment has realized they can bleed Russian on the military front, regardless of the outcome of the war, and greatly reduce the threat Russia offers the rest of Europe for a decade or more. Even before the war, the Russian production of more modern equipment was not terribly quick. The production of tanks alone will take years to replace what has been lost so far.

That said, this is veering off of military situation in Ukraine.
 

pmc

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The rumor as to why the Bayraktars have disappeared from social media is they are what is being used to raid or help guide the attacks on Belgorod and other cities near the Ukrainian border.
Ukraine are not exactly bright what they say. they have made TB-2 drone and its airforce the most ineffective. it is far better to shot down fighter in air with the pilot inside than on the ground without pilot.
see the quality of reporting.
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“At about 06:00 a.m., June 5, 2022, the Russian military fired five air-based Kh-22 cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea at the city of Kyiv. One missile was destroyed by the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense units of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Other missiles hit infrastructure facilities in the northern part of Kyiv,” the report states.
 

Michaelsinodef

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A little update on the Russian losses tracker I have been doing. The amount of equipment lost week to week has gone down significantly. I take this not so much as a case equipment is or is not being lost, but the fact the frontlines are relatively slow moving. If the Russians pushed hard and were pushed back, we'd see a lot more equipment losses or if the Ukrainians moved forward, we'd see the same.

The Russians have lost over 58% of the tanks they supposedly started with. This starts with the assumption, the Russians had 1300 or so with 130 BTG. The confirmation of the T-62s in use supports the heavy losses. Those are quite old tanks and require larger crews to operate (4 vs 3). The Russians have also lost over 28% of their IFVs, APCs, etc. The total numbers of IFVs, etc. lost now exceed the tanks, but tanks were a lower total numbers by a significant amount.

The Russians have lost the total equipment equivalent of 36, almost 37, BTG and an additional 12 (and change) tank battalions. In raw numbers, the Russians have lost the equivalent of about 48 BTG (BTG >> tank battalion), That would be 37% of the total force they started with.

Extrapolation of Russian troops losses based on that equipment is over 7,700 dead and over 31,000 total casualties. As always, this does not count logistics, artillery or poor bloody infantry. Infantry losses are going to be significantly higher.

We do know the Russians have reinforced: Chechens, Wagner, Far East, Ossetia, etc. have all sent more BTG. Last semi (stress semi) reliable statement was there were a total of 110 Russian BTG operating in Ukraine, mostly in the Donbas. If this is accurate, the losses mean the Russians have reinforced with an additional 28 BTG worth of troops (more or less 22k to 28k troops).

As always, since I am going to get someone who balks, this does not include the Ukrainian losses. However, if Zelensky's statment is accurate - losing up to 100 soldiers per day - then the Ukrainians have lost at least 10,000 soldiers, probably just as KIA (IMO), and - IF ACCURATE - would suggest over 40,000 total casualties. That number I can believe. It probably is a bit low, tbh, if I were to say

All of these are guessimates! This better than a guess, since there are some sources of data to support it, but the accuracy of the data is, at best suspect. However, I would not call these numbers accurate estimates.
I actually think we have a pretty good minimum estimates of deaths for Russian soldiers, which is provided by BBC Russia.

They apparantly track dead soldiers through finding people who were notified that someone from their family has died, which I think actually serves as an OK minimum estimate.

The number they tracked (I think it was a week or two ago), was about 2300 people.

We also have pretty good confirmation I would say, that a lot of equipment losses have been due to abandoning equipment (well in the initial week, and the following retreat from around Kiev), so a lot of actual manpower has been able to hitch rides on friendly vehicles while abandoning whatever their original vehicle was.
Ofc not all cases is the above, but I think its fairly safe to say quite a lot were, not to mention there's been cases of crews surviving hits and then fleeing say their tank.

Anyways a 2500 deads for Russian soldiers and 7500 wounded seems like a pretty good minimum estimate right around now (or well at day 100).
Note, this is Russian soldiers, this probably does not take into account LPR/DPR as well as Chechen and say Syrian and any other foreign soldiers. I think the deads of these combatants probably also reaches 2500? as a minimum?

For Ukraine though, I think we're minimum looking at the loss of ~80k men (note this is not dead, but KIA/Wounded/MIA/Taken prisoner etc.), and they also lost a considerable amount of more experienced soldiers and officer staff.
 

Zichan

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An interesting video explaining why Russian trade surplus increased almost 7 fold since the war started. It seems to be a combination or higher prices and significantly lower imports. The unanswered question is what the economic cost of the depressed imports will turn out to be. In the near term it will not be possible for Russia to substitute them domestically. They will likely have to find a 3rd party substitute.
 

Corona

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When you are winning so hard that the only choice left is begging, Good PR for Turkey though :
The people of Lithuania have honorably raised funds to buy a Bayraktar TB2 for Ukraine. Upon learning this, Baykar will gift a Bayraktar TB2 to Lithuania free of charge and asks those funds go to Ukraine for humanitarian aid.

Call of the duty squad arrived for their summer vacations :
Krasny Lyman, Captured Ukraine army members :

Footage from the phone of a Ukrainian nationalist killed in the industrial zone of Severodonetsk minutes before being killed :

Date and location unknown :
From the eyes of a VDV, enemy KIA every where :
 

sheogorath

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The rumor as to why the Bayraktars have disappeared from social media is they are what is being used to raid or help guide the attacks on Belgorod and other cities near the Ukrainian border. Belgorod and other locales are still getting hit and we hear (occasionally) from Russian governors the Ukrainians have shelled locations within Russia proper.

The last news of an strike in Belgorod was 2 to 3 weeks ago. If they were still doing it, the Ukranians(and by extension reddit and twitter OSINTbros) would be bragging about it.

Ukrainia media presence hasn't been subtle, to put it mildly, so doing some sort of cover ops with TB2 without any kind of publicity is simply not in them.

Occam's razor suggest they either don't have any left or at best case scenario, in order to try to save them from destruction, they were relocated to areas too far away from the frontlines to be of any use due to the range.


the Russian air force has not exactly covered itself in glory or demonstrated a lot of effectiveness: Ukrainian Su-25s are operating in Kharkov and the Donbass regularly.

How regularly?. Outside of the lone Ukranian Su-25 that got shot down a few days ago, most of the evidence so far has been sketchy as there have been videos of Russian Su-25 being purposely mislabeled as Ukranians.


And it appears the Ukrainians may have bagged another couple Russian generals. Roman Kutuzov and Roman Berdnikov, commanders of the 5th and 29th armies, are claimed to have been killed. T

We gonna have to wait for confirmation on this one. It isn't the first time Ukraine has claimed to have killed one general or another just for them to show up just fine a few weeks later.
 

taxiya

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An interesting video explaining why Russian trade surplus increased almost 7 fold since the war started. It seems to be a combination or higher prices and significantly lower imports. The unanswered question is what the economic cost of the depressed imports will turn out to be. In the near term it will not be possible for Russia to substitute them domestically. They will likely have to find a 3rd party substitute.
The guy is repeating the BS about Russian import from China dropped after the war breaking out. I have posted in this forum of the truth that China export to Russia increased 25.9% in March 2022 compared to March 2021. April was a big increase too.
 

lucretius

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Not sure I would class 2A4's as "state of the art", but probably better than the soviet roman candles they have been using up until now.
 
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