The War in the Ukraine

Santamaria

Junior Member
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It's not true.

The defenses are a bit deeper in Ukr. territory. It hasn't even been a week people. Let's not jump to conclusions or assessments.
People always exaggerate impact of corruption. Things are always built. Corruption simply means that government pays more and final workers receive less, and money in the middle is stolen.
This is the same in Ukraine, US, Spain, Germany, Russia, China or whatever you think.
Stuff is created, level of corruption only influence the over cost.

Ukraine tremendous corruption just mean a tremendous over cost, but Ukraine is not in lack of cash, receiving hundred thousand millions from US and UE.
 

iBBz

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People always exaggerate impact of corruption. Things are always built. Corruption simply means that government pays more and final workers receive less, and money in the middle is stolen.
This is the same in Ukraine, US, Spain, Germany, Russia, China or whatever you think.
Stuff is created, level of corruption only influence the over cost.

Ukraine tremendous corruption just mean a tremendous over cost, but Ukraine is not in lack of cash, receiving hundred thousand millions from US and UE.
In Ukraine's case, building trenches and filling them up with cannon fodder instead of negotiating a settlement, is corruption.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
People always exaggerate impact of corruption. Things are always built. Corruption simply means that government pays more and final workers receive less, and money in the middle is stolen.
This is the same in Ukraine, US, Spain, Germany, Russia, China or whatever you think.
Stuff is created, level of corruption only influence the over cost.

Ukraine tremendous corruption just mean a tremendous over cost, but Ukraine is not in lack of cash, receiving hundred thousand millions from US and UE.

Just like how corruption didn’t actually have any real world impacts on the much vaunted Afghan National Army right?

There are countless examples where money is spent and nothing of worth is delivered even in peacetime, never mind in a live war zone.

It’s truly breathtakingly naive boarding on the ridiculous to make such easily refuted wild claims that corruption just adds some cost and doesn’t have any real world delivery implications.
 

Santamaria

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Just like how corruption didn’t actually have any real world impacts on the much vaunted Afghan National Army right?

There are countless examples where money is spent and nothing of worth is delivered even in peacetime, never mind in a live war zone.

It’s truly breathtakingly naive boarding on the ridiculous to make such easily refuted wild claims that corruption just adds some cost and doesn’t have any real world delivery implications.
I think Afghan Army is not a good example because it was a totally artificial creation of the US.
Ukraine, as corrupt and artificial at it is, it has a real "statal bureocracy". I simply cant believe that something so simple as some fortification is paid but not built
 

Gloire_bb

Captain
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The choice of Ka-29 is kinda not optimum tbh.. especially with availability of Ka-52 that better suited for the task, with proper optics, radars, speed and electronic suites. The only issue was Russians really lacks Brimestone class Fire and forget weapon, which can allow simultaneous engagement of multiple targets. Thus maximizing use of the Arbalet radar.

The bette solution would be MALE or HALE UAV's or aircrafts as they provide much longer duration. But choice of weapons available remains the issues.
ka-29 belongs to the naval aviation.
the core problem here is interservice coordination - Russian VKS works in the interests of general staff and land war first and foremost; naval problems don't really concern them, even if they could've solved them on a whim.
VKS can and often does strike over the sea, but for their own goals.
 

sheogorath

Major
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ka-29 belongs to the naval aviation.
the core problem here is interservice coordination - Russian VKS works in the interests of general staff and land war first and foremost; naval problems don't really concern them, even if they could've solved them on a whim.
VKS can and often does strike over the sea, but for their own goals.

Doesn't the Navy have their own fleet of Su-30SM's?
 

Atomicfrog

Major
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Doesn't the Navy have their own fleet of Su-30SM's?
Would be quite hard to shot small sea suicide drone with a Su-30, would need some dedicated weapons/targetting pod for the task.

A ballon with a flir pod and armed with small guided missiles wired on ships could be nice, top view, unlimited loitering time.
 
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