Let's not talk about the decoy stuff anymore as it is going out of hand, on to other news.
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The War in the Ukraine
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Let's stay cool and mature in this thread. There is no need for biting sarcasm. If you and other side can't see eye to eye, just agree to disagree.
Interesting, I knew he was on Moscow since 1990 and taking into consideration his fast advance I though he didn’t do technical work but be the typical engineer that directly enter administrative task.
One political update about the new defence minister.
Apparently the most patriotic orthodox groups of Russia are happy with him because even if he worked in the Finance Ministry his public position has always been anti globalism and pro nacional production.
Also apparently he is a very practican orthodox and anti liberal.
Anyway, Shoigu retains many of his current responsibilities since he will be direct envoy of Putin to the MIC, and report directly to Putin.
So I think the new guy is going to focus in auditing any case of corruption, clean ministry of any pro west individual, and as Peskov says assure that the military industry contributes to the civil economy and also receive input from civil development quick.
But Shoigu will remain supervising the work or the MIC
I do not know if it is a decoy or not. Neither me neither you have means to really know it.Seems you're avoiding the most important question... Why would Ukraine deploy a 2 missile launcher and radar meters from each other where the radar can get damage from a patriot launch? Because they are decoys. Arguing this is just coping that Russia was fooled and wasted an Iskander.
Btw Russians claimed those were s300 launchers then much later changed it. How convenient, huh?
But if the situation would be the opposite, and Ukranians would have hit a Russian S400 to say something, you would say that it is not a decoy, and that Russians are incompetent for placing it there.
Also I doubt that the rocket was a Iskander, if is in range a Tornado has far more sense for this task
That sounds like the Russians are just starting to develop the military-civilian fusion that the Chinese and the US are already doing.
When Russia previously claimed to have destroyed a Patriot, we saw the Ukrainian government issue an official denial the day afterwards.
But it's been 3 days now.
So if this was a decoy, shouldn't the Ukrainians issue an immediate statement and make the Russians look really stupid?
In any case, we will know what has happened in a few week's time.
So, I think it was being done already. Most of Russian MIC produces also civilian equipment, for example think of Sukhoi producing also the civilian Sukhoi SuperJet, and there are examples besides aviation.
I think what they want is to assure that this project works fine, and that civilian stuff is not forgotten under war effort. Also to have audits of the money now that the budget have duplicated
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The Kharkov situation is going to be really interesting.
Personally I don’t think the Russians are desperate to take Kharkov itself. Their current strategy seems to be one of maximising pressure on Ukraine. Where the defences are weak, they punch through. Where they are strong, they FAB the hell out of the Ukrainian defenders for as long as Ukraine high command is prepared to keep feeding in forces. If any when Ukraine is unwilling or unable to maintain their defences, the Russians roll in and mop up the survivors.
The new Kharkov offensive seems to just have been intended as a side shuffle to maintain pressure as they are approaching natural obstacles in their current main thrusts that might present Ukraine with an opportunity to regroup and catch their breath by shrinking the line of contact using said natural obstacles to funnel the Russians.
As such, I don’t think the Russians are particularly desperate to reach and take Kharkov itself asap. Indeed, the Russians might even secretly bulk at the idea of attacking such a large urban city again without Wagner to do the dirty work for them.
I think the Russians should have been working on this problem for a long time now, and it is a problem they need to figure out a better solution to, because Wagner tactics just won’t cut it for the number of major cities they will need to take to conquer all of Ukraine, as they will bleed themselves dry taking cities at such high cost. The biggest question is whether they have managed to develop a new model and how well that new model might work in reality.
Some accounts are pointing out that early on, Kharkiv's defensive lines were put as an example for other units but current narrative seems to imply that the Russians were basically able to waltz in, suggesting misreporting on the extent and state of the defensive line and questions about where the money allocated for such lines actually went
Did they ever stop, though?. During Soviet times, military industries were also producing civilian stuff like airliners and cars.
Did they ever stop, though?. During Soviet times, military industries were also producing civilian stuff like airliners and cars.
Military-civilian fusion doesn’t just mean the MIC produces civilian products along with their military ones. It also means that the MoD and MIC will work with civilian companies to produce solutions to problems faced by the military. Such solutions can also transfer to the civilian side. The second part about the input by Peskov and his quote, “The one who is more open to innovations is the one who will be victorious on the battlefield”, hint at that.