The War in the Ukraine

tankphobia

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The Russians appear to be looking for solutions to the Ukrainian surface drone problem:

and this:
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I'm not convinced that suicide fpvs will be the answer. We've seen footage of those USVs in action, they are highly manuverable and most of it is underwater. Nothing short of a direct hit will be likely to destroy them as the water will absorb most of the impact.

Use of Torpedo nets and Ship mounted ATGMs to cover blind spots seems more plausible.
 

Atomicfrog

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I'm not convinced that suicide fpvs will be the answer. We've seen footage of those USVs in action, they are highly manuverable and most of it is underwater. Nothing short of a direct hit will be likely to destroy them as the water will absorb most of the impact.

Use of Torpedo nets and Ship mounted ATGMs to cover blind spots seems more plausible.
Torpedo nets and floating docks around mooring are nobrainer. At sea is a bit more complicated but in fast military ships, if you don't stop, how can they intercept and catch you ? Standing still in water is just plain stupid anyway.
 
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sheogorath

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Still looks industrial tho. But it works. The kit seems to increase the radar signature of the bomb by 70% As far as i see.

Does Ukraine have anything capable of intercepting them, though?. This seems to kind of outside Patriot's scope and I'm not sure how capable is NASAMS with regards to intercepting ammunition.

IRIS-T seems more up to the task.
 

tankphobia

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Torpedo nets and floating docks around mooring is a nobrainer. At sea is a bit more complicated but in fast military ships, if you don't stop, how can they intercept and catch you ? Standing still in water is just plain stupid anyway.
I was under the impression that most of the ships being hit and destroyed are indeed moving, just not fast enough to out run the jetskies. Were topedo nets able to achieve 100% coverage, what can a jetski actually do other than explode outside?
 

Atomicfrog

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I was under the impression that most of the ships being hit and destroyed are indeed moving, just not fast enough to out run the jetskies. Were topedo nets able to achieve 100% coverage, what can a jetski actually do other than explode outside?
If they are moving at slow pace... they are asking for it. Or Ukraine just leave the drone still on known ships path near ports and wait for them to go at sea ? Could be a possibility but they should be able to detect them with UAV or helicopter with IR for sure. Just embarassing.
 
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Stealthflanker

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Does Ukraine have anything capable of intercepting them, though?. This seems to kind of outside Patriot's scope and I'm not sure how capable is NASAMS with regards to intercepting ammunition.

IRIS-T seems more up to the task.

All those systems can, it's just a question on whether it's really worth to intercept the munition. Patriot however seems the only system that can and have the necessary kinetic energy to actually destroy the bomb in flight. While smaller missiles can perhaps damage the guidance kit, making the bomb flies off the mark but intact. There could still be big explosive or 1 tonne worth of EOD.
 

supersnoop

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I'm not convinced that suicide fpvs will be the answer. We've seen footage of those USVs in action, they are highly manuverable and most of it is underwater. Nothing short of a direct hit will be likely to destroy them as the water will absorb most of the impact.

Use of Torpedo nets and Ship mounted ATGMs to cover blind spots seems more plausible.

I wonder if ATGM is too big, too expensive for these drones
The Gibka has been shown with 4 ATGM mounted, but the swarms of the drones have allegedly numbered in the dozens
Might need something like 57mm rocket pods like a scaled down RBU
 
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