The War in the Ukraine

TK3600

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According to the guys at @fighterbomber, the A-50 crew detected the missile, trying to defend themselves, but their efforts did not work... another plane that is lost due to "friendly fire".... the narrative of the last few weeks, They only tell us that the operators of Russian anti-aircraft systems are especially inept at controlling enemy aircraft and Russian aircraft, especially that internal communications must be the most inept ever seen.... How many friendly fire casualties have the propagandists sold us? Russians? +10?

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Cant see why they would lie. Friendly fire is more embarassing?
 

Virtup

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The friendly fire hypothesis is highly unlikely since what ukranian plane would be flying that far over Russian territory? The only possibility for it to happen would be if an S350 in fully autonomous mode was placed there and completely misidentified the aircraft (BTW if true this would still mean the Russians were stupid for deploying it in that mode with it's current capabilities).
 

Santamaria

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This is war, mistakes and errors happens. Specially in one such intense and with such technological parity.

Never a war of this type has been so open, historically this kind of things would have been absolutely censored, but nowadays is impossible.

My point is that I am sure that Soviet Union or the US probably did embarrassing mistakes back in the 40s. Simply they were not open.

But Russians should cut some heads if it was friendly fire indeed
 

Tam

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Air strikes at the right bank of the Dniepr aimed at temporary bases.

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FAB-1500s dropped at the Kherson region, hitting ammo depots and temporary bases.

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Dnipropetrovosk industrial facility burning all night after Geran strikes. Facilities in Odessa and Kharkhiv were also hit, including another fuel facility. The fire on Dnipropetrovosk is so intense it can be seen in space.

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FAB-1500 dropped on the brick factory of Krasnogorovka. The temporary base may have up to 350 troops and 14 vehicles.

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Hanger containing military vehicles hit by a Lancet. Fruitful strike, one Lancet taking out a handful of vehicles at the same time.

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Soldiers from BARS-27 blasted an FPV drone the old fashioned way, with a shotgun.

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Ukrainian tank gets hit by a Lancet.

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Another M109 gets taken out by a Lancet.

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AN/TPQ-48 counterbattery radar gets taken out by a Lancet.

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Mine no. 3 near Ugledar gets another FAB.

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Ukrainian field ammo depot gets hit by 82mm mortar near Staromayorsky.

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Ukrainian drones tried to attack Tula, Byransk, Kursk and Belgorod but shot down.

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Aircraft shot down over Krasnodar but remains unidentified. AFU claims it's an A-50.

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AFU pushed out from the Surivikin line after Russian counter counter attack.

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Ukrainian drone shot down over Novolipetsky metallurgical plant but remnants crashed in the plant and caused a fire.

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Ukrainian MiG-29 fired a rocket on definitely civilian area.

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Friendly fire took down the Su-35. Failed rescue by helicopter.

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Russians have advanced towards the outskirts of Krasnogorovka.

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Previously a site of fierce resistance from the AFU, Stepvoe has fallen to the Russians.

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Stierlitz

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❗️According to reports from a number of sources, Russian armed forces liberated the settlement of Lastochkino in the immediate vicinity of Avdeevka, on the western outskirts of the city..

There is no official confirmation of this information yet.

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Virtup

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The Russians upgrade one A-50 to A-50U standard every year. And soon the A-100 will be in production. The main issue, assuming an A-50 was indeed lost and not an Il-76MD or something, would be the loss of crew rather than the airframe.
How soon is soon? And how many will be produced, say, per year or 2 years? These aircraft are priority targets for any enemy and they WILL shoot down several of them with some help from western ISR and the usual Russian negligence. They need to be available in sufficient numbers ASAP and with solid production backing them up to quickly replenish losses.
 
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