The War in the Ukraine

zhangjim said:

I just want to showcase the "biodiversity of the Earth".I understand that war will inevitably bring losses, but the poor performance of the Russians is surprising.
The fanaticism exhibited by Ukrainian supporters of China is beyond normal, and they are a reflection of the myth of "NATO invincibility".

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Which is incidentally the only type of thinking you showcase. You speak about "biodiversity" yet there appears to be no critical thinking up there.

We can say Russia has a poor performance, then what about NATO aligned forces that failed to even take 1 village in the past year and is now down to fielding seniors and women? Not seeing the invincibility there, bud.

When both sides have "poor" or "very poor" performance, the more prudent evaluation is that they simply both have average performance. For the first year, Ukraine had an above average performance, but for the last year, as losses mounted and the experienced USSR trained troops were swapped for NATO trained, it has been weak.

zhangjim said:

I just want to showcase the "biodiversity of the Earth".I understand that war will inevitably bring losses, but the poor performance of the Russians is surprising.
The fanaticism exhibited by Ukrainian supporters of China is beyond normal, and they are a reflection of the myth of "NATO invincibility".

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what is their reaction to photos of hundreds of burning M2 Bradleys and Leopard 2s?

FairAndUnbiased said:

what is their reaction to photos of hundreds of burning M2 Bradleys and Leopard 2s?

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They will avoid this issue, claiming that it is self comfort for the "yellow Russians".They will claim that the front line will not lie. The Russians have withdrawn from Kiev, Kharkiv, and Kherson, indicating that the Ukrainians have an advantage.

At the same time, they will seize any opportunity to humiliate the Russians.
Every tactical victory will become their carnival.

You need to understand that there are too many forces betting on this war. Extreme nationalists and pro Western factions in our country are happy to see the failure of the Russians.
This war effectively tests the true attitudes of various forces. You will deeply feel that people with different political stances seem to live in two different worlds.

zhangjim said:

They will avoid this issue, claiming that it is self comfort for the "yellow Russians".They will claim that the front line will not lie. The Russians have withdrawn from Kiev, Kharkiv, and Kherson, indicating that the Ukrainians have an advantage.

At the same time, they will seize any opportunity to humiliate the Russians.
Every tactical victory will become their carnival.

You need to understand that there are too many forces betting on this war. Extreme nationalists and pro Western factions in our country are happy to see the failure of the Russians.
This war effectively tests the true attitudes of various forces. You will deeply feel that people with different political stances seem to live in two different worlds.

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but if they avoid the issue then who is the one self comforting?

the front line indeed does not lie, Ukraine is the one being invaded and unable to repel the invader. If they had an advantage they would be the ones invading Russia.

Russian drone operators destroy this Maxxpro with demining equipment in the Kherson region.


Some building used by the AFU in Kherson at Berislav gets destroyed by a Grom missile.


Ukrainian landing boat trying to land gets hit by an FPV drone.


This Ukrainian 'temporary deployment point' in Kharkhiv after a successful Russian missile strike.


Russian Mi-8 helicopter crashed for no reason.


FABs hitting Ukrainian positions in Vladimorovka.


Giasint-S firing on a forest belt. The target footage indicates a Krasnopol used on the target.


Ukrainian BMP gets hit by an ATGM.


Shaktinksky polyester plant goes boom at the Rostov region. No sign of any attack at least externally. Could be chemical explosion. The plant is used to make mattresses and pillows.


Drone from the 110rd Brigade drops a bomb on a masked Ukrainian gun in Avdiivka. FPV drones from the 110rd hitting Ukrainian dugouts, also in the Avdiivka area.


New FPV drone tactic? Instead of kamekaze these Russian FPV drones are conducting dive bombing and level bombing on their targets.


Lancet takes out this Ukrainian tank.


All Krasnopol strikes on Ukrainian shelters.


Krasnopol strike on a Strela-10 air defense system.


VT-40 FPV drone strikes on Ukrainian landing boats.

Stealthflanker said:

Should be asked tho what happened to previous batches, were they all used up and hit their targets ?

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Quite a bunch have been launched against Crimea Kerch bridge, ship docks and ships stationed in Crimea, where air defences are dense and active. They need saturation attack in Crimea to achieve success, so a lot of missiles for little bang. They still managed some good PR hit there for what it count.

Not a lot of media coverage of their use on other targets... they would have bloated any success. They have hit the Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam with success but it's water overflow that busted it..

The best hits I have seen so far with these European stealth cruise missiles were when they hit that corvette that was still in the construction yard and the Kilo submarine in the repair dockyard. Both in Crimea. But it's not like Russia doesn't have more of those.

Tam said:

He's obliged to secrecy like any soldier, so the best he can do is cryptically hint. Given the lack of any report of helicopter rescue which is often reported with every other crash and shoot down, and the lack of any deployment of rescue ship, this reinforces the notion that's there's no crash at all.

Ukrainians assumed as proof of a crash everytime something disappears in the radar, despite that an aircraft diving below the radar horizon, or releasing countermeasures that defeat the radar, can also make it disappear.

Since Ukrainian bloggers refer to @Fighter_Bomber consistently, you better be consistent then about everything he says. While other Telegram channels were sending eulogies and charities to the alleged dead crew, he makes it clear "I died yesterday", and there's no eulogy for anyone in his page.

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You lie blatantly, fighter firefighters have never denied the loss of the plane, nor have the posts that propaganda quotes deny the loss of the aircraft, but the fact that you ignore reports of SAR or CSAR operations does not mean that the plane is safe and sound, let to lie

There is also the fact that you do not post this publication by @fighterbomber, where they not only talk about the loss of the A-50 but also mention the death of crew members... conveniently you only bring isolated publications to the case or old ones, look at this one:



So, how is it that your source is denying that the aircraft was lost, if its participants are analyzing the causes of the demolition/loss?... can you explain it without bringing a pamphlet?

FairAndUnbiased said:

what is their reaction to photos of hundreds of burning M2 Bradleys and Leopard 2s?

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Sarcasm isn't allowed here.... you really don't believe Ukraine has received "hundreds of Bradleys and Leos," right?

The US basically bought all the T-72 tanks in the world market that they could and sent them to Ukraine. All the Polish, Czech, Bulgarian, etc T-72 also ended up in Ukraine. Just the Poles alone donated 290 T-72 tanks and 60 PT-91.