The War in the Ukraine

Atomicfrog

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The range of the Patriot PAC-2 GEM-T is about 160 km, some say it can reach up to 200 km, the circle of the 160 km range is this:
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The red circle is where the A-50 was apparently shot down and the blue circle is where the IL-22M was before it was attacked. Consider that to do this, Ukraine would have to move the Patriot into the front line of the Dnipro area, which would leave the system very exposed, unless the Ukrainians actually did this, this would be considered a great feat by Ukraine.

The range of 200 km:
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If they fly at this distance of the front, downing is expected with a huge plane like that...
 

gelgoog

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That looks like the tail of an Il-18 variant. The damage pattern seems consistent with shrapnel from a fragmentation round from some kind of anti-air missile.

I don't think it is an Il-22M because it lacks the antenna on top of the tail of the aircraft.
 
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gelgoog

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I don't think it is an Il-22M because of the lack of antenna on top of the tail. For example this is an Il-22M:

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Looks like some other Il-18 variant. Unless that piece of the tail was broken out or something.
 
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Tam

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Friendly fire face palm. Another casualty in a list that includes three Sukhois over the past year.

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IL-22 seems tough to survive two hits.

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Iskander launch.

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AFU warehouse sans ammo depot in the Kharkhiv region. Destroyed by Tornado-S.

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Russian drone flyover in Avdiivka.

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M109 Paladin falls victim to Lancet attack in Kherson.

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T-64BV took heavy damage from a Russian FPV drone but is it repairable?

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Another Ukrainian tank gets picked off by Ka-52 via Vikhr missile.

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Hidden Ukrainian SPG hit by Lancet in Kherson.

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This Baba Yaga is now in service with it's Russian captors.

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Death of Lieutenant General Pavlovich of the Ukrainian Airforce. The person was a veteran of the Soviet Union and has mastered the piloting of several aircraft. As a veteran pilot he might have been training new pilots. No report on the cause of his demise, which maybe a crash or shot down but most probably was from a Kinzhal attack on Ukrainian air force base.

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Members of the Ukrainian 4th Tank Brigade refuses to fight.

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Ukraine fired three Tochka-U missiles at Kursk but were intercepted.

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Russian soldier survives a one on one with a Ukrainian FPV drone.

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Lancet takes out a Ukrainian SPG of Western origin.


Lancet takes out a Ukrainian vehicle that looks loaded with soldiers. This should be in the northern flank of Bakhmut, based on the fact VDD98 recorded this which is the 98th VDV.


TOS from 98th Guards VDV lands on Ukrainian positions on the Bakhmut sector.

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Anything with wheels and tracks getting attacked by the VT-40 FPV drones of Sudoplatov.


Ukrainian tank takes a hit and subsequently abandoned by its crew. The tank was finished off by a Russian drone that dropped grenades into its open hatch.

 
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Tam

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Italian FH-70 towed howitzer gets Lanceted in the Kupyansk front.

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Death of another Ukrainian air force pilot is confirmed but not mentioned if this was a shoot down or missile strike in air force base.

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Area of Kislovka in Kharkhiv region getting TOS'ed.

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Ukrainian Strela-10 in Urozhayne gets struck by a Lancet.

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Russian Su-25 seen in the eyes of a Ukrainian drone.

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Ukrainian 2S1 Gvozdika at work, going out of its shelter to fire. The shelter hides it's presence and offers protection from drones.

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FPV drones take out a couple of Ukrainian BRDM-2 in the Avdiivka direction.

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Ukrainian fortification in flames after struck by the 98th VDV Guards Division in west of Bakhmut.

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Destroyed remains of a Ukrainian convoy.

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AFU shelter in Chasiv Yar hit by the 200th Brigade of the North Fleet.

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Akasya of the 394th Regiment hits Ukrainian dugouts in Staromayorsky.

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Lancets takes out Paladin, Gvozdika, and hidden Ukrainian howitzer somewhere in Kherson.

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Ukrainian plant in the Sumy region involved in the production of ammunition among those hit by missile strikes.

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Training class for FPV drones in Buryatia.

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Bradley of the AFU 47th Brigade gets Lanceted in the Avdiivka front.

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Tam

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If they fly at this distance of the front, downing is expected with a huge plane like that...

It's very odd but it seems that @Fighter_Bomber himself might have been a crewman of the A-50. He has this cryptic post in his Telegram channel.

"Bro, I died yesterday. Everywhere about it wrote.
Let's remember..."

Then continues to post on his Telegram channel. He also confirmed it's friendly fire and the picture of the holed tail of the IL-22 is his and first posted on his Telegram channel.

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The "died" part is in reference to all the postings about the two planes downed and their crewmen dead.

Based on this and if it's true @Fighter_Bomber was a crewman of the A-50, the A-50 managed to return with @Fighter_Bomber on board. However it's likely to be in a highly damaged state, taking it out of operational status for a while. So it's a "loss".

No reports of Mi helicopters in rescue mission sortie which would point to a downing. We have rescue helicopter sorties accompanying crashes and shoot downs before.

By the way @Fighter_Bomber is saying it's friendly fire.


Onto other news,

The perished Ukrainian Lt. General is Pavlovich Stanislav Nicolayevich. My apologies for not getting his full name first. He was still flying jets at 65 years old which is pretty bad ass. He was a veteran of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan so he goes way back. He was said to be training bomber crews which to me sounds like Su-24s and Storm Shadows.

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Another Bradley M2 of the 47th takes a Lancet hit in the Avdiivka front.

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A Pinzgauer Vector 718 gets destroyed in the Donetsk area.

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Ukrainian drones being shot down over Voroznezh.

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Demining operation, but it looks me the snake got tossed into Ukrainian positions.

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Ukrainian landing boat in the Dniepr gets a direct hit.

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Hidden Ukrainian vehicle, probably an APC, getting hit by an FPV drone.

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There's video footage of a forced Ukrainian recruitment attempt that's gone horribly bad. This time the target volunteer had a gun and shot the recruiter at point blank the moment the door was open.

Giasint-S artillery SPG at the office.

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T-90 tank firing blind in bad weather solely relying on UAV fed coordinate information. Result is a direct hit on a house the Ukrainians were using as a shelter.

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Rosguard in the DNR finds a large abandoned Ukrainian ammo cache.

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Ukrainian tank hit by a Lancet from the 238th.

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Iskander launch somewhere in the Kupyansk.

 

tankphobia

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Having seen quite a few videos over the conflict of Russians soldiers riding on top of IFV/APCs getting hit by mines and UAVs, why do they continue with this tactic? A MRAP would serve this troop transport role much better while also being somewhat protected from mines.

In the age of massed UAV usage, there's very little chance that a squad on top of a BTR or BMP will actually make it to the line of contact unscathed anyhow, so the infantry screening argument is questionable.
 
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