I would wait that war dust settle to do anything about it beside putting shelter to protect the interior from water infiltration. That's some nice hits, would have been great on a target that would help the front. It's still a good kick in the nuts tho.
The War in the Ukraine
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It looks like the outer hull with it's ballast tanks are damaged, but no indication the inner pressure hull, with it's extensive high tensile strength steel might have been breached. Submarines are heavily compartmentalized, and a cruise missile, unlike an antiship missile, doesn't account for this as they are meant to blow up land targets. Antiship missiles use semi-AP or shaped charges to breach these compartments and break into the inner hull --- and even then submarines with their pressure hull are way tougher than a surface ship.
On to other news.
These artillery shots are 203mm from a Malka, hitting Ukrainian SPGs. Allegedly a Pzh2000 was destroyed according to the crew but it's more like an M109 or Krab or AS90 (they all look similar from above) that was destroyed.
Ka-52 scores another vehicle kill.
Fighting east of Urozhayne. Two knocked out Finnish XA-180 infantry carriers and a destroyed AFU T-80BV by the 37th Guards MR Brigade.
Boom. FAB-500 with UMPK hits a large Ukrainian ammo depot in the Krasnoliman direction.
Artillery from the 9th MR Brigade lands on a Ukrainian temporary deployment point in the Avdiivka front.
Also from the 9th MR Brigade, artillery lands on a Ukrainian UAV team.
Ukrainian POV video. The tank leading the column gets hit by a Russian ATGM.
Artemovosk area. Destroyed AFU T-72M1 and unidentified IFV.
Hitting AFU APCs while they are undertaking evacuation and rotating procedures is a Russian tactic these days, deliberately waiting to trap APCs after they load troops. The work of the 37th MR Brigade in Novodonetsk.
AFU APC trying to bring troops back gets hit in Novomayorsky.
Krasnopol hit on an AFU ammo depot on Prechistovka.
Remember in the Georgia war when Su-25 attacked the Tbilisi aircraft plant? Why would history matter?
(assuming you know the connection between Su-25 and Tbilisi)
Really? Come, we surely can disagree on so much, but to claim, this is repairable is far from anything realistic. Even if the inner hull is not broken - what I cannot imagine - it is so much damaged that repairing it is either not possible or economical doable.
IMO this is just a wreck.
Those pictures just show holes and minimal deformities around them. If there was fire, the damage might have warped the interiors into being unusable, but if fires were quickly controlled or there were no fires, there's no reason it could not be repaired.
Repairable or not would fully depend on internal structure warping. I don't see any reason except ideological fervour where one would so easily assume "this is just a wreck". The Bonhomme Richard looked significantly worse than that, and there were serious discussion on repairing it, before they decided it would be uneconomic and scrapped it.
That's some turbo-cope right there. Presumably RuN can also refloat the Moskva, repair it and bring it back into service?
So why can they not just cut out the deformities and then rebuild the missing hull bits?
Assuming there is no internal warping.
Your argument has nothing but emotion in it, please try to hold yourself to a higher standard than that.
Nobody has said it will defintely be repaired or that it will defintely be scrapped.
Probably in the stern the damage is not so serious, but the impact on the bow was an almost perfect impact for the type of attacking missile (the precision is notable), probably affecting the entire weapons launch system.
The Russians are so incompetent that they cannot prevent images of the damage from being leaked, now the propaganda cannot support the version that the submarine suffered minimal damage.... it is evident that both ships have considerable damage, and perhaps the repairs are as expensive like buying new ships....
Because that is very expensive and difficult to do with the kind of reinforced steel used for sub pressure hulls. Also no doubt much of the internal equipment will have been jolted out of position and would need realinging at great cost.
Warning: Sarcastic Attack
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