The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Looks like a famous F-16 trained pilot died on the two plane collision, along with two more pilots. Planes amended from MiG-29 to L-39. War or not, even in peacetime, flying military jets in exercise is still dangerous business.

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CAESAR knocked out by a Lancet. There's a recent MoD report of a Pzh-2000 self propelled howitzer getting knocked out but we may have to wait for a video of that to come out if ever as this occurred in the northern front where some information lockdown is taking place.

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Su-34 slams glide bombs on areas on the right bank of Kherson where Ukrainian DRGs have landed.

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ZPU-4 on an MT-LB chassis for a makeshift AA platform. ZPU-4 is a vintage quad 25mm AA gun system.

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Dramatic footage. An AFU AD system tries in vain to take down an observation UAV, which had already called a Lancet strike upon it, and which knocked out the system. The crew managed to stay alive and pulled out a wounded member to safety.

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Lancet hit on an AFU SPG hidden in the forest line.

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Russian artillery hitting AFU positions in Avdiivka.

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AFU troops hiding in the forest belt in the Kremennaya front, became subject to artillery fire.

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Krasnopol takes out an M109 in Sinkovka.

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TOS-1a deployed in Zaporozhye doing it's work on AFU positions.

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HighGround

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Seems like mechanised assualts are increasingly risky with modern drone corrected artillery able to blunt a thrust and incur heavy losses. Adding a minefield to the mix and you'll pay in blood for every inch of ground. We're seeing this playing out in the Ukrainian counter offensive and I expect any future Russia offensive to share the same fate.

Yes, but not because this is a logical outcome of current military technology and doctrine.

In my opinion, what we are seeing, is lack of skill on the part of NATO, Ukrainian, and Russian planners. Both countries need a much greater investment into C4 and operations personnel. Reconnaissance, suppression, and offensive operations need to be properly coordinated to avoid such catastrophic losses.

I do not believe this to be the future of warfare. This is a wake-up call.


Chuck Pfarrer is one of the most unreliable sources on Twitter. The word "source" isn't even accurate here. He might as well be an TikTok influencer. He routinely either makes things up, or believes every rumor from Ukrainian Twitter.

There's a reason why he is almost never quoted or referenced by people like Rob Lee, Kofman, and so on. The only circles he hangs out in, are those weekly NAFO Twitter circles where they basically brainstorm the next Tom Clancy novel about how Ukraine and NATO are going to partition Russia.
 

tankphobia

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Yes, but not because this is a logical outcome of current military technology and doctrine.

In my opinion, what we are seeing, is lack of skill on the part of NATO, Ukrainian, and Russian planners. Both countries need a much greater investment into C4 and operations personnel. Reconnaissance, suppression, and offensive operations need to be properly coordinated to avoid such catastrophic losses.

I do not believe this to be the future of warfare. This is a wake-up call.
At least I think only a few super states (US/China) can actually afford to pay for and operate the full C4 apparatus for effective combined arms operation. Modern informationalizd warfare is not only a test of the military infrastructure, but also those of civilian industry which is needed to build the equipment needed.

Compared to WW2 where most industrialized countries could build their own tanks, ships and airplanes we have seen the know how trickle down to a few large global companies, now with the domain of space added to the mix even fewer countries are capable of fulfilling all needs of their military purely by their own industrial output.

So no, this should be the future of warfare for everyone but China and the US who can afford to independently equip and fight a full fledged war.
 

Tam

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Lancet takes out a hidden M777 in the Krasoliman direction.

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Lancet takes out another SPG this time a 2S1 Gvozdika.

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M777 blows up with an ammo cook off after it was hit by a Lancet in Kherson.

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Number of published videos of Lancets have exceeded 600. Half of the videos are of artillery units.

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Destroyed AFU BMP-1 in Belgorovka.

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Krasnopol strike on Ukrainian artillery in Urozhayne district.

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Lancet from Russian Marines takes out an SPG in Zaporzhyzhia.

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Landed by EW a British sourced drone with 10kg of explosives. The drone was from Malloy Aeronautics.

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127th Motorized Rifle Regiment is using a 2B9 Vasilek automatic 82mm mortar towards a forest line in Zaporzhyzhia.

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Skye_ZTZ_113

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So is it just cope or what U.S. General Milley said was correct that the other lines of defenses are not as heavily fortified as the 1st?

It doesn't matter if the other lines are not as heavily fortified. The structure is such that if you break through one area, you'll be receiving fire from multiple directions, including sections of the 1st line still held by your opponent. A typical breakthrough would be a narrow thrust that is very exposed and worn down, easy targets for air and artillery. It wouldn't surprise me if the Russians have gamed out Rabotino and similar possible targets - with massive amounts of artillery zeroed in on likely breakthrough locations, just waiting for the moment that frankly looks like it's never coming.

At no point have we seen a big movement of Russian reserves either, in the event of a major breakthrough past the 1st and 2nd lines.
 
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