The War in the Ukraine

Stealthflanker

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There are some things i noticed watching the destruction of Artillery or Air Defense System from both sides.

They seem to not really employing "Scout and shoot" But rather they actually pre-determine sites where the system can deploy, disperse and "unpack". The Ukrainians and Russians are finding these sites and monitor them periodically, to see when they were occupied and possibly for Air Defense Site, when they are online at a time. Then they determine when to strike.

The recent destruction of Russian S-300V sites and S-300/400 launchers as well as Ukrainian's equivalent sites appears to be the result of such. The presence of erected radar is, by no means the system is online, SAM radars can direct its radiation to Dummy load thus it cannot be detected by ESM's even with transmitter online as there are nothing being emitted from the antenna.

The other thing is apparent lack of point defense system protecting the SAM's. I wonder if they actually work separately. Another thing is probable usage of same sites over and over which allow their positions and deployment schedule to be figured out, this is case of complacence.

Ideally tho the sites should be regularly changed.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Russian air defense functioned well They downed 42 drone attacks It is encouraging that China IAD was largely based on Russian design with improvement and should perform well in Taiwan contingency. All those Bayraktar, Storm Shadow,Scalp are now neutralized
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Russia hails air defences after massive drone attack on Crimea​

AFP
Fri, August 25, 2023 at 7:30 AM CDT

Russia on Friday praised the work of its air defences, saying they had downed 42 drones over the Moscow-controlled Crimean peninsula, a day after Ukraine claimed its forces launched a raid there.
Crimea, annexed by Russia in 2014, has been targeted by Kyiv throughout Moscow's Ukraine offensive but has come under more intense attacks in recent weeks.
"All air defence systems are working quite effectively," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, adding that "minor damage" was sometimes unavoidable.


He was responding to a question about whether the Kremlin was concerned about increasingly frequent drone attacks, after waves of drones were downed over the peninsula.
Nine drones were "destroyed... over the territory of the Republic of Crimea," the defence ministry wrote on Telegram early Friday.

Thirty-three others "were suppressed by electronic warfare and crashed without reaching the target," it said, without specifying whether there had been any damage.
The ministry later said it downed a drone over the Kaluga region, southwest of the capital.
Moscow has been targeted by almost daily drone attacks in recent days.
The Kaluga region was also targeted by a "missile" overnight, which was detected and destroyed by air defences, the ministry said.
 

sheogorath

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Apparently the Ukranians are sawing off cluster 155mm rounds to reuse the bomblets in FPV drones. This will probably paints a grim picture regarding the availability of tubes and the supposed artillery advantage some claimed the Ukranians had during the offensive if they rather wast 155mm rounds like this. Proably hints at a shortage of drone dropable grenades and explosives.

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US claims they will train a few Ukranian personel after they take an english proficiency course

A misfiring unidentified OSA
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Yesterday, four Russian missiles destroyed air defense systems radar stations and the command center of Ukraine's air force

Lancet back in Action
Russian troops managed to destroy Ukrainian military vehicles using only drones or lancet series loitering ammunition. The recording was widely circulated on Telegram Social Media on Thursday, (24/8/2023). In the first video, you can see how the 2S1 'Gvozdika' self-propelled gun was destroyed along with its ammunition load. It didn't stop there, the Russian lancet UAV also brutally crashed into the P-18 radar in the direction of Kupyansk. Meanwhile, in the Zaporozhye region, Osman's special forces drone did not half-heartedly blow up the American M113 armored personnel carrier. As a result, this incident for the umpteenth time adds to the long list of losses that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have suffered.
 
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tankphobia

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Seems like mechanised assualts are increasingly risky with modern drone corrected artillery able to blunt a thrust and incur heavy losses. Adding a minefield to the mix and you'll pay in blood for every inch of ground. We're seeing this playing out in the Ukrainian counter offensive and I expect any future Russia offensive to share the same fate.
 

Tam

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Ghouls and Upyrs (Vampires) take down at least 5 AFU high speed boats with personnel. Here a soldier aims his rifle in a vain attempt to shoot down a Ghoul moments before the drown hits the boat.

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Upyr strike on an AFU boat at the Dniepr.

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After being hit, same boat goes forward by momentum for some 50 meters.

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Lancets hit howitzers. Second seems a sort of.

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MSTA-B wins a counter battery duel over an FH-70.

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Self inflicted. Stryker gets stuck on a trench.

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FPV drone hits a running M113 APC.

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Ukrainian Go Pro captures the moment an air dropped bomb lands near their position in Rabotino.

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AFU Su-25 crashes in the Rabotino area.

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Self inflicted. Two AFU MiG-29 collided over Zhytomyr. Messages pertaining to the event were immediately censored.

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Marines of the 810rd Brigade help adjust the artillery fire of the 503rd Motorized Rifle Regiment.

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tamsen_ikard

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What is going on the in counter-offensive? is Ukraine starting to win?

I see posts telling Russian lines are breaking. AFU capturing more towns. At the same time, Russia is trying to do an offensive in the north east. Is this the right strategy when Ukraine is trying to break the land bridge?
 

drowingfish

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What is going on the in counter-offensive? is Ukraine starting to win?

I see posts telling Russian lines are breaking. AFU capturing more towns. At the same time, Russia is trying to do an offensive in the north east. Is this the right strategy when Ukraine is trying to break the land bridge?
it absolutely is. russia's offensive was always going to be in the northeast, for the simple reason that it is away from the black sea where NATO air assets can track them real time, as well as a shorter supply route. the defense network in the south is more than enough to handle ukrainian attack, seeing as robotina was supposed to have been taken by ukraine in the first week according to their plan. because russia still has so much depth, it actually works in its favor now to allow for some ukrainian advance. because it would draw the ukr army to attrit more resources, which takes away from their ability to defend kupyansk.
 
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