Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Not according to the Russian source DW is one of those supporting Ukraine and they just posted what Ukraine said without checking it . Alexander Mercouris and Brian Beletci has daily update on he front
The War in the Ukraine
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I always forget that Putin could speak German.
it depends where you look, one direction Ukraine is not making progress the other 2 directions assume Russia is making progress.
The source I posted awhile ago in may 2023 said 370k russians in operation zone and 200k not counted for outside the operation zone which suggests half a million bodies to spare. Ukraine states Russians get killed more than they do.
yes a proper defense in depth would do exactly that, funnel the attacking force into a pre-sighted area for artillery strikes.
the ukrainian "breakthroughs" are not very significant until they have reached russia's operational rear. at this point they are not even close to that, and they already committed their follow on echelons.
MSTA-B wins its counterbattery duel with an M777.
Marines in South Donetsk and Ugledar use the BMP-3 as a support artillery piece, here with fire adjusted in real time by a UAV. If the person looks Asiatic it's because the Marines of the 40th and 155th Brigades are from the Russian Far East.
AFU armored car and tank taken out by ATGM at the Vremevsky Ledge, courtesy of the 394th Regiment.
Ukrainian UAV 'Fury' shot down.
AFU air defense system on the right bank of the Dnieper destroyed.
An SPG of the AFU gets hit by a Lancet.
Russian artillery takes out this Ukrainian SPG.
14th Spetznaz Brigade takes out this AFU tank that has been firing at Russian positions.
Battles continue in Rabotino with destroyed AFU vehicles being worked on by air strikes. The target reticles in these images suggest LMUR strikes.
AFU M109 hit by Krasnopol somewhere in Kupyansk.
New 30mm grenade VOG-3D begins issuance with Russian troops. Compared to previous models, the VOG-3D extends range to over 2km and widens the kill radius to 13 meters.
Marines in South Donetsk and Ugledar use the BMP-3 as a support artillery piece, here with fire adjusted in real time by a UAV. If the person looks Asiatic it's because the Marines of the 40th and 155th Brigades are from the Russian Far East.
AFU armored car and tank taken out by ATGM at the Vremevsky Ledge, courtesy of the 394th Regiment.
Ukrainian UAV 'Fury' shot down.
AFU air defense system on the right bank of the Dnieper destroyed.
An SPG of the AFU gets hit by a Lancet.
Russian artillery takes out this Ukrainian SPG.
14th Spetznaz Brigade takes out this AFU tank that has been firing at Russian positions.
Battles continue in Rabotino with destroyed AFU vehicles being worked on by air strikes. The target reticles in these images suggest LMUR strikes.
AFU M109 hit by Krasnopol somewhere in Kupyansk.
New 30mm grenade VOG-3D begins issuance with Russian troops. Compared to previous models, the VOG-3D extends range to over 2km and widens the kill radius to 13 meters.
I don't know about this Brian Beletci but I will surely check out his channel, however Alex Mercouris is a certified Putin lover. Whenever Russia loses ground somewhere in Ukraine he will spin it and say by losing ground Russia is winning in some grand 5D chess.
There isn't one unbiased reliable source, not in the east and not in the west. In the end it doesn't matter though because if one side wins then they will win regardless of what the media says.
Personally I think both Ukraine and Russia are fked, Ukraine probably lost hundreds of thousands while Russia probably suffered no less than 40-50k dead. There is a major difference though between the dead Ukrainians and the dead Russians, Ukrainians are dying defending their country because if they don't fight then Ukraine will cease to exist while the Russians are dying while invading a foreign country. Hopefully Putin will eventually finaly have some pity for his soldiers that he is sacraficing in this meatgrinder and realize that this is an unwinnable war. Just as how Yemen became a quagmire for the KSA even though many more Houthies are dying than Saudis, Ukraine has also become a quagmire for the Russians.
So you deny the breakthrough in Novodanylivka-Verbove in Zaporizhzhia Region?
Any source that isn't one of the usual hype suspects?. Suriyak and Rybar make no mention of any breakthrough in the area, ony attempts at recon in force sprinkled with infantry(what would usually get labelled as human waves, if it was the Russians).
The are is largely static with the Russians still holding the edge of Robotino while the area becomes a scrapyard of Ukranian vehicles.
I'd say what's going on in Kupyansk is an actual breakthrough.
It seems to have reached a point where usually supportive officers are starting to squarely blame Ukraine for the lack of results with the think tanks running cover for the Ukranians although pointing it is still lacking and there isn't a thing such as a breakthrough:
The criticism also includes this supposed breakthrough to Melitopol which seems it wasn't such:
Ukranians strike a civilian building in Energodar with a FPV drone. Doesn't do much other than injure a lady passing by
plawolf
Lieutenant General
The Ukrainians going on the offensive, and doing so after so much hype, telegraphing and delay, should go down in history as one of the worst and most and needless strategic own goal in military history.
The Russians have artillery dominance and air superiority, that already puts Ukraine massively at a disadvantage. Before the Ukrainians were able to punch above their weight due to a combination of many factors such as Russian overreach and hubris in not addressing their manpower cliffedge quicker and better. They also enjoy some tactical level advantages due to NATO ISR support massively reducing their kill chains to allow them to hit the Russians and avoid a lot of the counters.
But by giving the Russians so much advanced warning about their much hyped counter offensive, they allowed the Russians plenty of time to consolidate their positions and focus their manpower (which is also after the Russians have been able to deploy their newly mobilised troops to the front to address their manpower issues mostly). That’s one previously enjoyed major advantage gone.
Going on the offensive against well established defences also made it easy for the Russians to shorten their own kill chains. They no longer needed to go hunting, instead they just needed to wait for the prey to come to them into pre-sighted kill zones. That’s the second major advantage gone for the Ukrainians.
On top of that, the Russians have also been rapidly adapting and improving themselves with massively increased used of lancets and FPV drones, which went a large way to offsetting the Ukrainian western supplied PGMs. The VKS is also getting back into the fight with glide bombs
The extensive Russian minefields also proved to be a hard counter the Ukrainians had no good answers to.
All of that puts the Ukrainians in an impossible position. Armoured assaults can’t get past the mines fast enough to avoid Russian artillery and TacAir coming into play. Infantry assaults also get bogged down by mines and get slaughtered much easier by Russian artillery and small arms fire
On top of that extended range Lancets are hitting the Ukrainian artillery, AD and other support assets hard since the Ukrainians need to move those to the front, making it much easier for the Russians to find them.
Even when the Ukrainians take Russian trenches, those are usually sacrificial ones manned by mobiliks and get hammered by Russian artillery once the Ukrainians take them. The Russians then launch their own counters to take back those trenches fairly easily most of the time. The net result is the Ukrainians are trading unfavourably with their best trained and equipped troops for Russian fodder troops.
Once the Ukrainians exhaust themselves against the Russian lines, they are going to be exceptionally vulnerable to the inevitable Russian counter attacks.
Instead of going on the offensive, the Ukrainians should have done what the Russians did and hardened their defences looking to blunt Russia’s attacks and hit them on the counter, like they had been doing so successful before.
The problem is political. Because the west wants this war over quickly because it’s costing them too much.
The Russians have artillery dominance and air superiority, that already puts Ukraine massively at a disadvantage. Before the Ukrainians were able to punch above their weight due to a combination of many factors such as Russian overreach and hubris in not addressing their manpower cliffedge quicker and better. They also enjoy some tactical level advantages due to NATO ISR support massively reducing their kill chains to allow them to hit the Russians and avoid a lot of the counters.
But by giving the Russians so much advanced warning about their much hyped counter offensive, they allowed the Russians plenty of time to consolidate their positions and focus their manpower (which is also after the Russians have been able to deploy their newly mobilised troops to the front to address their manpower issues mostly). That’s one previously enjoyed major advantage gone.
Going on the offensive against well established defences also made it easy for the Russians to shorten their own kill chains. They no longer needed to go hunting, instead they just needed to wait for the prey to come to them into pre-sighted kill zones. That’s the second major advantage gone for the Ukrainians.
On top of that, the Russians have also been rapidly adapting and improving themselves with massively increased used of lancets and FPV drones, which went a large way to offsetting the Ukrainian western supplied PGMs. The VKS is also getting back into the fight with glide bombs
The extensive Russian minefields also proved to be a hard counter the Ukrainians had no good answers to.
All of that puts the Ukrainians in an impossible position. Armoured assaults can’t get past the mines fast enough to avoid Russian artillery and TacAir coming into play. Infantry assaults also get bogged down by mines and get slaughtered much easier by Russian artillery and small arms fire
On top of that extended range Lancets are hitting the Ukrainian artillery, AD and other support assets hard since the Ukrainians need to move those to the front, making it much easier for the Russians to find them.
Even when the Ukrainians take Russian trenches, those are usually sacrificial ones manned by mobiliks and get hammered by Russian artillery once the Ukrainians take them. The Russians then launch their own counters to take back those trenches fairly easily most of the time. The net result is the Ukrainians are trading unfavourably with their best trained and equipped troops for Russian fodder troops.
Once the Ukrainians exhaust themselves against the Russian lines, they are going to be exceptionally vulnerable to the inevitable Russian counter attacks.
Instead of going on the offensive, the Ukrainians should have done what the Russians did and hardened their defences looking to blunt Russia’s attacks and hit them on the counter, like they had been doing so successful before.
The problem is political. Because the west wants this war over quickly because it’s costing them too much.