The War in the Ukraine

Weaasel

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The Russian military under Putin made some bad choices in peacetime that are now coming to bite them in the posterior. They spread their force over expanded formations and assumed they will fill them in with partial mobilization which never happened. As a result, their BTGs went into war in a state of being seriously deficient in light infantry.

Russia is fighting this war at peace time strength. They are not committing recruits into the fight. Therefore, their pool of available men gets smaller and smaller. Some of their best units were shattered in the first month of the war. The much vaunted and feared Western Military District performed the worst.

Long term, there are serious headwinds ahead for Russia. The Russian military is not set up for general mobilization. They are not the Soviet Union. They don’t have the empty units to take large numbers of recruits.

Because Putin is kicking the can down the road, and avoiding to redefine the “special operation “ into war, Russia is forced to scrape the barrel and consume into battle those units that were reserved for training in time of partial mobilization.

Russia is not the US either: they don’t have training centers where people go to when they enlist in the military. In the Russian military the units themselves take the new men and train them. That’s why all those BTGs were not at full strength in peacetime: they relied on recruits to fill in the allocated empty slots.

However, now that Russia has taken massive losses they were forced to drain a selection of their BTGs of manpower to bring a smaller number of them back to combat readiness. But that means that these drained BTGs will no longer be capable to effectively train recruits in case of partial mobilization. The longer Putin procrastinates with making the hard choices and dithers, the more diminished their ability to recover their fighting strength will be in the future.
Russia has nuclear weapons in case anyone tries to attack its territory. It can wait to recuperate before launching any more operation in foreign countries.
 

Hinex

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MoD Russia, [5/29/2022 3:46 PM]
⚡️Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

▫️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision long-range missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed a large arsenal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at an enterprise's storage site in Krivoi Rog, Dnipropetrovsk Region.

During the day, high-precision air-based missiles have hit 3 command posts, 25 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration and 2 artillery batteries at firing positions.

▫️1 Osa-AKM anti-aircraft missile launcher near Nikolaevka, Donetsk People-s Republic, 1 air target detection and tracking radar near Boguslavka, Kharkov Region, and 5 ammunition depots near Krasnogorovka, Pokrovskoe, Donetsk People's Republic, Severodonetsk, Lugansk People's Republic, and Bezrukov, Kharkov Region, have been destroyed.

✈️ Operational-tactical, army and unmanned aviation have hit 2 command posts, as well as 53 areas of concentration of AFU manpower and military equipment.

▫️The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 300 nationalists and up to 50 AFU military and special equipment.

Russian air defence means have shot down 1 Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force near Novogrigorovka, Dnepropetrovsk Region, in mid-air.

▫️4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been shot down near Malye Prokhody, Pitomnik in Kharkov Region, Mirolyubovka in Dnepropetrovsk Region and Nizhnyaya Krynka in Donetsk People's Republic.

▫️1 Ukrainian Smerch multiple rocket has been intercepted near Malaya Kamyshevakha, Kharkov Region.

Missile troops and artillery have hit 62 command posts, 596 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 52 positions of artillery and mortar units of Ukrainian nationalists.

In total, 183 Ukrainian aircraft and 128 helicopters, 1,049 unmanned aerial vehicles, 325 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,309 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 447 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,722 field artillery and mortars, as well as 3,270 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

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baykalov

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What do you think about this - the source is the Donbass media in the Donetsk People's Republic.

The article is in Russian language, I use automatic translation:

Zelensky vs. Zaluzhnyi

Anglo-American games on the Ukrainian field

The internal alignment in the territories of the former Ukraine is acquiring more and more interesting configurations and is becoming a reflection of the rivalry between the "cousins" - the United States and Great Britain, which are the main sponsors and organizers of the Ukrainian crisis. Thus, these countries demonstrate a difference in approaches on a number of important, one might say, key issues. Moreover, they are diametrically opposed.

So, for example, London directly and persistently calls on the Ukrainian Nazis to intensify attacks on Russian territory, including on critical targets, while Washington states that it is categorically against this and therefore for the time being avoids supplying long-range weapons to Kyiv, which could be applied directly to the Russian Federation. You can, of course, see this as a game of good and bad cop, but these contradictions are also present in other issues.

It cannot be assumed that in this way Washington simply distances itself from the Ukrainian war, as if abdicating responsibility for what is happening, shifting it to the Europeans. The involvement of Americans in Ukrainian affairs has not decreased, although the British over the past couple of years, while they were busy with their domestic political agenda, have seriously pressed them. It turns out that the British and Americans control today two "centers of power", or two conditional groups in Ukraine.

So, under the complete control of London are the Ze-office (Zelensky's office), the SBU (The Security Service of Ukraine) and Nazi groups affiliated with it. The Americans control the Armed Forces of Ukraine (Commander-in-Chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi) and the Nazi groups, oriented towards Avakov, Azov (banned in the Russian Federation), National Corps. At the moment, the Pentagon has managed to put the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine under its direct control, bypassing the "intermediate link" in the form of Zelensky's office. This was done under the pretext that, due to the difficult situation in the Donbass, there is a need to reduce the time for making decisions without lengthy coordination.

Considering that before that, a tough dispute had been going on for several days between the British and American approach to the Donbass (London’s position, defended by the Ze-Office, is to stand to the last Ukrainian, the American approach, voiced by Zaluzhnyi, is the withdrawal of troops to the “second line”), which ended with the shutdown of Ze -commands from making decisions on the issue, we can talk about the victory of the United States. Especially after they and Zaluzhnyi were moved away from planning operations on Snake Island, the one that failed, and the one that is still being prepared.

However, almost immediately after the American one, an asymmetric response followed - the accusation of treason against Poroshenko (it was Washington that Zelensky gave guarantees of his immunity during the transit of power), a ban on his travel and the subpoena of his potential supporters in court. In fact, an internal war between British and American proxies begins.

This information, by the way, confirms the “Joker.DNR”, according to which, the “morning of the shooting execution” for the top of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was discussed in the Ze-office. The reason for it should be the defeat of Ukrainian formations in the Donbass. The heads of Zaluzhnyi's inner circle will fly first to isolate him and leave him alone. Then it will be his turn. Moreover, the matter is clearly not limited to resignation, accusations will follow. And it’s good, if only in negligence, and not in treason.

The fact that the issue of removing Zaluzhnyi was resolved by the Ze-Office is believed by many - he has become too popular and self-willed. Moreover, critics of Zelensky LOM begin to gather around him. But it can be assumed that the group under the control of the Americans has plans to strike at opponents. And behind this may be the desire not only to outplay the “cousins” in the Ukrainian field, but also a radically different American strategy in the Ukrainian issue from the British one.

Washington is already well aware that crushing Russia with "hellish sanctions" did not work and will not work. They have already received certain dividends in the form of a weakening of the EU, the military-industrial complex has received new orders, Russia's ties with Europe have been destroyed. But further prolongation of the crisis may threaten with unpredictable consequences. Yes, even now it is impossible to call the situation manageable. The situation for the Nazi regime is critical. And after its fall, the collective West finds itself in a dead end, including the semantic one. To accept the new status quo and start building a new relationship with Russia is to actually admit defeat. Continue confrontation? But no one from NATO wants to fight with Russia, and it will not be easy to maintain the required degree without bloody provocations like Bucha.

The following view is beginning to prevail in the United States: it is necessary to freeze the conflict in the Minsk-3 variant and reduce the general level of tension in the world to a level that would minimize the economic costs of the West. At the same time, the Nazi regime in Kyiv and Ukraine, as "anti-Russia", albeit in a truncated version in the territorial plan, should be preserved. A kind of splinter, pulled out only halfway, continuing to abscess and capable of causing blood poisoning.

Such a solution would suit Germany, France and many other European countries. Actually, this proposal was voiced by Henry Kissinger in Davos. But Britain has other tasks. It seeks to win back Ukraine quickly and to the fullest, and use its remnants to strengthen its satellite - Poland, which should become the center of the "anti-EU" under the British hand. London recently announced the creation of this union.

Zelensky, who is under his control, will not agree to any peace talks or to a “freeze”. This, in fact, was directly stated. Zelensky will not be spoken to in the Kremlin, this is also not a secret. But at the same time, even at the beginning of the SVO, Vladimir Putin unequivocally stated that it would be easier to negotiate with the Ukrainian military than with “Nazis and drug addicts.”

And the Americans may well, in order to implement their plan, replace Zelensky with Zaluzhnyi, who will already be conducting peace negotiations. In what format this rotation will be carried out - "arrival of a rocket at the location of Zelensky", "ДРГ"(
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) or a coup - is not so important. The first two options are cheaper and easier. Zelensky is sufficiently promoted, and his debunking will require funds and time. On the other hand, his overthrow and accusation of all sins will facilitate the task of informational preparation of peace negotiations: “the clown who plundered the country has led everything to a dead end, and we have no choice but to make concessions in order to save at least something.”

However, both for Russia and for the people of Ukraine waiting for liberation, no concessions are sufficient, and peace agreements without the implementation of all the goals of the NWO, declared and not made public, are not acceptable. The situation cannot be preserved. A splinter that is not pulled out to the end threatens with infection. Although the disagreement and rivalry of our enemies can not only be welcomed, but also try to expand and strengthen.

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Temstar

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What do you think about this - the source is the Donbass media in the Donetsk People's Republic.

The article is in Russian language, I use automatic translation:
This game of thrones shit is exactly what happened within KMT under Chiang Kai-shek who had his own ambitions despite US benefactors and had a love of micromanagement of the battlefield from a distance despite repeatedly demonstrating he was very poor at it:
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Sounds like pretty much this is what's going on in Ukrainian high command, ironically in above they're discussing strategy for Huaihai campaign which is also about how to fight a battle after realizing retreating is too late. If the report is correct we might be looking into a mirror.
 
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Shadow_Whomel

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According to BBC RU on 13 May, they confirmed that 2,336 Russian troops were killed in action. Here are two charts they have released based on the death in battle data. For more information on how they counted them please visit this
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Picture 1) Officers as a percentage of the number of people killed in action
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Picture 2) Data on deaths by geography
As well as the conditions that Russia is now offering to frontline contract soldiers as published by one website, including
- Military specialization and military service experience required
- One-time payment upon signing of the contract: 250,000 rubles
- One month's salary: 220,000 roubles;
- Additional payment: 8,000 roubles per day
- In case of death, family members will receive 12,421,000 roubles;
- Serious injury: 3,296,000 roubles;
- Minor injuries: 3,074,000 roubles.
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This salary could be called "attractive" and combined with the fact that most of the fallen soldiers come from less developed regions of Russia, I have no doubt that Putin will be able to raise enough reserve troops.
 

pmc

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This Salary data of Syria published a while ago. very identical. except Pilots get $6,500 a month.
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At the end of last year, the Russian command in Syria gave the following figures: soldiers and contract sergeants (there are no others in the contingent) receive up to 200 thousand rubles per month. An officer's salary starts from this amount and reaches an average of 300,000. Pilots making combat sorties receive about 400,000, but much depends on the number of sorties. Plus, servicemen receive money for their stay abroad: contractors for $43, officers for $62. All of them are also provided with free food, accommodation and medical care. If a soldier is injured, which leads to the 2nd or 3rd group of disability, the insurance indemnity will be 1 million rubles. The first group - 1.75 million. For the death of a relative in Syria, his family receives 2.34 million rubles.

In addition to soldiers and officers, there are civilian employees of the Ministry of Defense in Syria: cooks and other employees of canteens, plumbers, public utilities, etc. Their salary is from 100 to 150 thousand rubles. per month.
 
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