The War in the Ukraine

Deino said:

Just a question … there have been several posts referring to one single news, claiming the S-70 Okhotnik was used in Ukraine. As proof also an image was posted … and now several news outlets from the typical suspects are posting all over, this secret super-weapon will change the war.

AFAIK however it only showed a blurry image of an Iranian drone and even more so old footage.

Can anyone post this report and image here or have more info on this story?

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Obscure rumor.
The picture is something news editors found suitable.

The reality of it...well, it's a given that all Russian weapon systems mature enough for combat trials will be there. Could S-70 be there? Well, theoretically yes, but it shall be too early for it.

Will S-70 (incredibly valuable prototype pretty early in the testing program) be used at altitude which will let it be positively identified, deep behind the front lines?
Just no, that's just not how combat trials are being done.

AMX-10R captured by Russian forces, courtesy of obtf Kaskad. This was captured complete with it's ammunition. A number has been destroyed, few have been recovered by the Russians.


M109 found destroyed, with a direct hit on the tower.


VDV scouts using an ATGM against a Ukrainian APC.


Various vehicles destroyed and getting hit by ATGMs of the 11th Guards Brigade of the VDV near Artemovsk.


FPV drone destroys Maxxpro.


BMP-3 using it's 100mm as indirect artillery fire, adjusted by drone. This near Artemovsk.


Incendiary from BM-21 Grad used against Ukrainian bridgehead in Antonovsky Bridge.

Footage of the work of the Russian MLRS "Grad" after the impact of the Ukrainian rocket MLRS Himars. The Ukrainian army, conducting aerial photo reconnaissance with a drone, noticed the Russian installation of the Grad MLRS, after which the Himars MLRS struck with precision weapons. Despite the close impact of the Himars MLRS rocket, the Russian Grad MLRS continued to carry out its combat mission and launched missiles. The crew apparently worked remotely from cover.






A German Leopard 2A6 tank of the Ukrainian army, possibly abandoned by its crew, came under attack from a Russian Lancet kamikaze drone. A kamikaze drone hit the back of a Ukrainian Leopard 2A6 tank where the ammunition is located, judging by the video, the shells did not detonate, but the tank was damaged.






Battle of the BMP M2A2 Bradley of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region. An episode of the battle with the use of the American BMP M2A2 Bradley by the Ukrainian army has been published. This is footage of a battle dated June 8, when a large convoy of Ukrainian M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and Leopard 2A6 tanks, as a result of an attack on Russian positions, was hit by mines and hit by Russian artillery. The video is shortened, showing the fire of an M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle and a vehicle of the same type hitting a mine. After that, the Ukrainian soldiers put up a smoke screen and try to evacuate, at which point the shooting of the battle stops.

Lancet takes out MT-LB with D-20 howitzer on tow and a D-30.


Strela-10 taken out by VDV in the Bakhmut sector. Krasnopol might have been used.


VDV dropping incendiaries via MLRS on Ukrainian reconnaissance groups in the Bakhmut sector.


Maxxpro taken out by FPV drone.


Ukrainian ammo depot taken out in Avdiivka.


Krasnopol strike on a Ukrainian ammo depot. Drone tracked a truck to the depot and targeted it.


Ukrainian BMP-1 was safely moving along when something hit it without any warning.


Artillery from the Russian 120th Guards Artillery Brigade hitting a Ukrainian position.

Strangelove said:

“This is my third war I’ve fought in, and this is by far the worst one,” Offenbecker told The Daily Beast. “You’re getting fucking smashed with artillery, tanks. Last week I had a plane drop a bomb next to us, like 300 meters away. It’s horrifying shit.”

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Bound to happen when you are fighting people that can actually shoot back

In Kharkiv, their missions were largely self-driven. The Ukrainian government didn’t link them up with Ukrainian or other foreign volunteer units to coordinate, so they took it on themselves, introducing themselves to territorial defense forces, regular army units, airborne units, and Ukrainian Special Operations units.

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So Ukrainians indeed have no clue how to integrate Special Forces into their operations and command structure, which is something that was pointed out in the leaked documents.

Basically two dudes thinking they are Captain America and then realizing this wasn't going to be the field trip they thought it was going to be.


Leopard 2A6 had its Arrowhead armor blown off



Bradley can toss their turrets just as good as any other tank.

Basic JDAM-ski design seems to have stayed the same though some extra fins have been added on the back

Ukraine complains a recon vehicle is unsuitable for frontal attacks

The artillery duels seems pretty intense at the moment, we're seeing videos of 5+ artillery systems from each side being destroyed daily, surely this is not really sustainable for either side long term? Going forward towed guns should become a relic since they are basically death traps if the enemy has any sort of counter fire/UAV available.

tankphobia said:

The artillery duels seems pretty intense at the moment, we're seeing videos of 5+ artillery systems from each side being destroyed daily, surely this is not really sustainable for either side long term? Going forward towed guns should become a relic since they are basically death traps if the enemy has any sort of counter fire/UAV available.

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Survivability of self-propelled howitzer have been abysmal... and they are way costlier and bigger target than towed gun. The things I found way too easy to kill are the self-propelled howitzer...

tankphobia said:

The artillery duels seems pretty intense at the moment, we're seeing videos of 5+ artillery systems from each side being destroyed daily, surely this is not really sustainable for either side long term? Going forward towed guns should become a relic since they are basically death traps if the enemy has any sort of counter fire/UAV available.

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Eh, just like "death of tank", "death of towed arty" is probably wrong too. After all, SPH faces different trade-offs. It's probably better to say that once spotted, towed arty will have a harder time displacing. However, both have the problem that they can't really know that they have been spotted unless they: 1. hears camera drone getting too close, 2. suddenly finding high explosive shells exploding near them, 3. literally eat a Lancet drone or something.

Atomicfrog said:

Survivability of self-propelled howitzer have been abysmal... and they are way costlier and bigger target than towed gun. The things I found way too easy to kill are the self-propelled howitzer...

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What we've seen destroyed is mostly the shorter range stuff, highly mobile systems such as pzh2000, Caesar etc have been rarely seen as destroyed.

Towed guns on the other hand have been lost in the hundreds by both sides at this point, granted they're dirt cheap in comparison, but UAV coverage has also seem to have increased to the point that lancets esq kamikazi drones are making them easy targets.

Granted, it seems self propelled artillery pieces have also been lost in the hundreds...

tankphobia said:

The artillery duels seems pretty intense at the moment, we're seeing videos of 5+ artillery systems from each side being destroyed daily, surely this is not really sustainable for either side long term? Going forward towed guns should become a relic since they are basically death traps if the enemy has any sort of counter fire/UAV available.

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A few weeks ago Shoigu released a claimed 4,000 artillery pieces , approx. 700 in the Ukraine. Did a tour of arms depots for the cameras.