The War in the Ukraine

Chinese approach of cost effectively putting artillery and truck together seems like the way to go. It still requires manually laying the gun to stabilize, but it saves money to turn towed pieces into mobile ones. After all, a truck is cheap, an artillery gun is cheap, it is the things in between that bloat the price of SPG.

tankphobia said:

What we've seen destroyed is mostly the shorter range stuff, highly mobile systems such as pzh2000, Caesar etc have been rarely seen as destroyed.

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pzh2000 have not been there in quantity at all... 12 only and within month where sent back to Poland for repairs. 36 Caesar only... They have thousand of towed artillery...sure that we see them destroyed in bigger numbers than those. Just per statistic, having some getting destroyed is surprising, they are making only a very very small percentage of artillery systems used by Ukraine.

more than 300 km road repaired in DPR.

Finish it in few month time.

And this is only one area, and in few month timeframe.

I think the old, 2021 data about the road network condition in the new Russian annexed areas is outdated, example this road now capable to carry serious military convoys and works as a high workload supply road.

Geran drone hits SBU building. Many of these drones continue to slip by despite official claims of being shot down.


From the Russian Far East Fighters in their Telegram, compilation footage of their kills from Ka-52.


Lancets have become a real bother with the Ukrainians. Here an S-300 launcher gets hit by a Lancet. After that, fire prevention crews went to work right away.


No amount of cope nets saves this P-18 from a Lancet attack.


M777 hit by Russian artillery.


Russian artillery crew gets medals and cash bonus for taking out M777s.

Anlsvrthng said:

more than 300 km road repaired in DPR.
Finish it in few month time.
And this is only one area, and in few month timeframe.
I think the old, 2021 data about the road network condition in the new Russian annexed areas is outdated, example this road now capable to carry serious military convoys and works as a high workload supply road.

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This is one of the reasons why Ukraine's attempts to cut off supplies to the newly conquered areas by bombing the train stations and bridges coming from Crimea is not going to work. The Russians have upgraded many of the roads going into those places. Like the road which goes from Donetsk to Mariupol. You can basically supply Mariupol by paved road from Russia if you wanted to at this point. You can supply Mariupol by road or railroad from Rostov, or road and railroad from Crimea, or by ship to either it or a nearby harbor.

The Russians are using a new camouflage paint scheme on their ships. HI Sutton claims this will make those ships harder to identify by naval drones or low resolution satellite photos.

tankphobia said:

The artillery duels seems pretty intense at the moment, we're seeing videos of 5+ artillery systems from each side being destroyed daily, surely this is not really sustainable for either side long term? Going forward towed guns should become a relic since they are basically death traps if the enemy has any sort of counter fire/UAV available.

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It'd be interesting to see each side's analysis on why these systems are getting destroyed.

These are mobile systems that should be backing off after their fire mission. They should be hard to locate. Unless of course, they keep coming back to the same exact spot every time.

The high survivability of SPGs needs to be based not only on mobility, but also on informatization. 2S1, 2S3 and the older 2S19 do not have informatization capabilities, which means they have to be exposed their positions for long periods of time for target settlement and cannot use their mobility.

Day of the Lancets continues as another P-18 radar gets taken out.


D-30 howitzer towed by MT-LB taken out by Lancet.


M777 taken out by Lancet in Ugledar.


Hidden howitzer taken out by Lancet in Bakhmut sector.


M109 SPG gets taken out and explodes.


Krab taken out. However this has been amended to AS-90.



Ukrainian video of soldiers arriving to one of the destroyed SPG, confirming that this was an AS-90 and not a Krab. Both look similar from a distance to me especially with some blur. This makes me think that some recorded 'Krab' kills out there are actually AS-90s.


FH-70 nailed by Russian artillery.


Ukraine not too happy with AMX-10R, but it was obvious that those things were for reconnaissance and not frontal assaults.

tankphobia said:
The artillery duels seems pretty intense at the moment, we're seeing videos of 5+ artillery systems from each side being destroyed daily, surely this is not really sustainable for either side long term? Going forward towed guns should become a relic since they are basically death traps if the enemy has any sort of counter fire/UAV available.

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Ukraine officially claims up to 20 Russian artillery units while Russia officially claims between 70 to 100 Ukrainian artillery units. Each freaking day. Of course this includes mortar crews and systems. Yet here we are.

Shadow_Whomel said:

The high survivability of SPGs needs to be based not only on mobility, but also on informatization. 2S1, 2S3 and the older 2S19 do not have informatization capabilities, which means they have to be exposed their positions for long periods of time for target settlement and cannot use their mobility.

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How are m109's and krabs for that as i seen a lot of vids of them getting hit.

This is a bit interesting, result of lack of progress from the counteroffensive perhaps?