The War in the Ukraine

Welp
It seems this being a potential psyop is still on the table (tho with the cost of a couple aviation losses)

FriedButter said:

MOD and Wagner seem to be in communication the entire way. I imagine if there was any real deterioration then they would have reacted more strongly by then.

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May I ask why 6 helicopters and a transport were then shot down? If there was no real deterioration of the situation, that is...

RottenPanzer said:

Welp
It seems this being a potential psyop is still on the table (tho with the cost of a couple aviation losses)

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No way, Putin called Prigozhin a traitor. If he gets off lightly then that's serious loss to Putin's authority.

anzha said:

May I ask why 6 helicopters and a transport were then shot down? If there was no real deterioration of the situation, that is...

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Shooting while there are ongoing negotiations with progress vs if there wasn’t any negotiations will garner a different response.

Temstar said:

No way, Putin called Prigozhin a traitor. If he gets off lightly then that's serious loss to Putin's authority.

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And this shows that the civilian government can be easily coerced and how the military and police forces can no longer maintain the stability of the government. This is unacceptable for any government.

Given that it is 9PM in Moscow. Putin isn’t likely going to give an update until tomorrow morning or maybe about 12 hours or longer.

anzha said:

More than 12 hours?

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They might have been given an ultimatum...

Situation on the ground at Rostov:
Party is over, everybody go home now

The distance from Rostov to Moscow is a good 1000 km, 80% has been covered by the convoy today. How many hours after sunrise did the convoy start in Rostov?

Things don't look good for Shoigu, mostly.