I have serious doubts a broadcast by Putin would have taken place calling the insurrection traitors, etc. if it were just trolling.
Magyar's popcorn post is a good trolling. This...well...*chortles*
The War in the Ukraine
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I have serious doubts a broadcast by Putin would have taken place calling the insurrection traitors, etc. if it were just trolling.
Magyar's popcorn post is a good trolling. This...well...*chortles*
I think uprising is cancelled for now, more sources are now saying Prigozhin called it off.
Well, IMO both came to the conclusion , against each other both will lose … so even if no true solution on how to proceed is known, this is anyway better than open full civil war.
It seems that Shoigu is less and less likely to remain as defense minister.
Definitely, tho Wagner could face total annihilation. No military supplies, no support, and 25,000 troops scattered across 500 miles of highway and cities. More distance than going from the South of Ukraine all the way to the North of Ukraine. It would be surprising if they had enough ammo to last more then a week given how far they drove
I have to say, Putin should not have been in a position to lose this unless the Russian military is overcommitted to Ukraine and has no real reserves. That may explain why the troops seen deploying to possibly block Wagner seemed to lack tanks and were only a handful of helicopters rather than full VVS strikes.
We should wait and see. Like what @gelgoog said, there are heaps of disinformation out there that cover the truth. There is one thing that is confirmed though: Russia’s command and control is just outright bad.
It takes a while to ready them to full effect...
More than 12 hours?
MOD and Wagner seem to be in communication the entire way. I imagine if there was any real deterioration then they would have reacted more strongly by then.