The War in the Ukraine

Atomicfrog

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The Intel drones (assuming you mean the commercial DJI drones) are to high to spot and mostly to far away for shotguns any way. You only need to be like 150-200m up and it's almost impossible to spot it with the sun in your eyes etc.
The grenade droping ones could probably be engaged but it is hard to shot something directly above you and dodging grenades at the same time does not make it easier. So the shooter would have to be positioned of to the side to have any chance.
A chance is better than none... automatic shotgun with buckshot could be nice to clear a trench too.
 

Tam

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Russian FPV drone attacks the top of a Ukrainian tank which looks like a Leopard to me.

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Ka-52 returns with a damaged tail. Due to extreme toughness of this bird, I would question the validity of kill claims against it unless there is clear evidence of wreckage. I remember a Ka-52 still in action despite repeated MANPADS hits leaving dents in the body.

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Mocking soundtrack inappropriate in my opinion, so I recommend to watch it quiet. Destroyed T-64BV, two destroyed M113, and an Oshkosh.

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ATGM in night vision heads out to an unsuspecting Ukrainian troop company. I believe many of the Kornet-D used for anti-infantry have thermobaric warheads.

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Bradley taken out by Kornet ATGM.

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Tornado-S in action. Target coordinates entered into the warhead guidance system.

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Ukrainian vehicle casualties in Pyatihyatki. Two T-72M, one BMP-1, one BRM-1K, two armored vehicles. A small slice of the huge alleged losses in this village that got heavily TOS'ed. This smells like a deliberate fire trap to me given the village is on a low level area.

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BMUFL

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A chance is better than none... automatic shotgun with buckshot could be nice to clear a trench too.
Eh, the trade in opportunity cost is probably not worth it. Adding anything on the drone itself lowers the flight endurance and alters the flight characteristics. It might be fine to strap random things like an
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, but that's because one can get away a lot more on the ground. It is not fine when the "automatic" shotgun (Saiga-12 is not fully automatic) one tries to strap is the same weight as the drone they are trying to fly (at least order-of-magnitude-wise) and still trying to fly it for however long.

This isn't ArmA. You can't just attachTo arbitrary things to a drone and still expect it to work as intended.
 

Atomicfrog

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Eh, the trade in opportunity cost is probably not worth it. Adding anything on the drone itself lowers the flight endurance and alters the flight characteristics. It might be fine to strap random things like an
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, but that's because one can get away a lot more on the ground. It is not fine when the "automatic" shotgun (Saiga-12 is not fully automatic) one tries to strap is the same weight as the drone they are trying to fly (at least order-of-magnitude-wise) and still trying to fly it for however long.

This isn't ArmA. You can't just attachTo arbitrary things to a drone and still expect it to work as intended.
Talking of using the Saiga against the drone... not using the Saiga on the drone.... duck hunting you know ?
 

Topazchen

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It was the smart thing to do.

The credibility of the Oryx brand is spent. Now that western equipment is getting blapped in footaged numbers off the charts, Russians will keep trolling Oryx until time immemorial since they staked their whole brand on "counting losses".

But the US govt knows perfectly how to deal with a situation like that. You just do the same as with a company that collapses. Declare bankruptcy, kill the brand, then bring the key employees over to a new project once the smoke has cleared.

See you soon again, Oryx people.
Now that much of Ukranian equipment is gone and has been replaced with Western variants, it will be hard to label them as Russian losses. He had to quit to save himself the embarrassment.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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OOF

Well some UKR special forces made it into a Russian trench and caused havoc. That video's up in reddit, tiktok, hell even facebook.

I wonder how representative of things on the ground it is - how often something like that happens. For example, if UKR troops really do make it to a trench system, how easily do they take it?

Also wonder where that trench is.

Also, the Russian troops seem to be conscripts. Poorly trained and equipped. They were definitely not ready for trench combat.
as representative as Wagner special forces being able to pass for Ukrainians and shoot brigade commanders point blank with pistols in the middle of their base. that is to say, not at all. it might happen due to luck, but you can't count on luck.
 
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