The War in the Ukraine

Some vehicles abandoned by Ukrainians had their engines running when they were seized by the Russian military.
Confirmation of destroyed S-300PMU SAM launcher from the battalion handed over to the AFU by Slovakia

dingyibvs said:

I think there's a need for a specialized unmanned demining platform. Probably a low flying (1-3 meters or so above the ground) quadcopter that can scan the ground for mines and mark them for destruction via another platform, like a small caliber mortar a few kms back. A system like that should be fairly cheap.

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My dad have gone to Kuwait after the first gulf war with a collegue to propose land mines IR detection system from a small plane. It was build in a Piper Cherokee. Contract didn't work in the end but with just a good IR camera and GPS tracking and photography they where able to easy pinpoint antitank mines during the night. Probably feasible with a quadcopter, technology have taken giant step on imagery in 30 years. But if you have EW, you are screwed, lol.

Problem is not the demining, but that the mines are only part of the fortification/defening military means.


So, there are all sort of anti tank missiles, artirelly , air force, other tanks and the list infinite.



So, without supressing the enemy teams the dmining team has 0 chance regardless of the sophisitcation of euipment that they use .

MarKoz81 said:

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The roads are as shown on OpenStreetMap at scale "12":

• orange - "yellow" roads on OSM@12, all with numbers,
• yellow - "wide white" local roads on OSM@12 , some of which have numbers
• red - major national roads/highways
• black - railways, paired with "wide white" class roads
• purple - front line
• blue - russian defensive lines as indicated by satellite imagery
• darker lines on greyscale background - field roads and minor gravel roads.

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I am not so sure if the situation is like that

2022/11/09 news

We are now actively building and repairing roads in the new regions, and by the end of the year we plan to bring about 500 km to the standard. Their economic development and integration with the rest of the country also depend on modernisation of the road system in the new regions.

For example, this year we will complete 44 km of Novoazovsk-Mariupol road. The pavement has already been laid on 26km, road workers are now working on the widening and exits, and the bottom layers of asphalt are still being laid on the remaining 18km.

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500 km road to built and repair by end of 2022, now we are half year later most likelly the critical roads refurbished, and possibly many missing connections built.

6 mont is long time.

By quick google, India making 20-40 km highway per day.

Considering that Russia has in practice unlimited budget in the past half year the road network would changed dramatically.

Problem is there is no 2022 end sat picrue of the area anywhere, without deep pocekt, so not possible to check the current condition of road network.

HighGround said:

I wonder if the Leopard has good composite armor. Never heard anything special about it, unlike the much vaunted Challenger 2 Chobham or Abrams' DU plates. Would be interesting to read the findings in a few months on BMPD or Andrei_btvt's livejournal pages.

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I believe the turret face with the arrow shaped add on is supposed to be very resistant to APFSDS. The underlying composite isn’t too crazy though. It should have NERA elements to it.

HighGround said:

Anyway, I don't recall seeing this in the thread, but Russia recaptured Makarovka according to Rybar.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1668522952642502656

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Changed hands again. AFU controls it now. I think this is the 4th or 5th time it changed hands in the last 48 hours.

Apparently the RuAF is giving the Ukranian forces a hard time. According to the telegram message, most advances by the AFU are less than 1km, they are facing tank ditches, mine fields everywhere and massive amounts of ATGM's, kamikaze drones, artillery and aerial strikes


If this is still far away from the main russian defensive line, one can only imagine what awaits them there, then.

drowingfish said:

rumor has it that NATO countries were not happy seeing their equipment all over the internet in pieces, and ukraine had to pull back a bit and commit non-western equipped units instead

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I never understood this mindset. Buyers should expect losses, but if this is about optics that this war is strictly between Ukraine and Russia then it's already too late. Everyone knows this war is really between NATO and Russia. Ukraine just happen to be the useful idiot.

TK3600 said:

It appears Russia's decision to slow down taking ground and fortify was the right decision. Ukraine's counteroffensive has began in earnest. Despite the tactical difficulties this is inevitable due to politics. The questions then becomes "ewhat is next?" Ukraine will continue to commit large assault on Russian position regardless of success. Once the attacking force has exhausted, will Russia resume their advance but at greater pace?

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NATO is far too invested in their war against Russia so I expect they'll make another attempt to double down. There will be a period of insignificant skirmishes to freeze Russian forces while they rebuild Ukraine's army for the 5th(?) time. I'm curious to see if Poland will go "all-in" as many pundits have noted of their presence inside Ukraine.

H2O said:

NATO is far too invested in their war against Russia so I expect they'll make another attempt to double down. There will be a period of insignificant skirmishes to freeze Russian forces while they rebuild Ukraine's army for the 5th(?) time. I'm curious to see if Poland will go "all-in" as many pundits have noted of their presence inside Ukraine.

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Off topic but alot of it could be dependent on who holds power in Washington in a year or so. Also economic factors could play a significant role.

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Footage on the Ukrainian platoon surrender in Avdiivka, and the capture of a rare antique MG 42. Platoon had too many wounded and no means to evacuated, negotiated surrender with two BMPs.


Ukrainian Buk-M1 destroyed at Southern Donetsk. No mention of the weapon, but I guess it could be a Tornado-G or Tornado-S from volunteer Russian Far East group.


Ukrainian shelters and strongholds in Zaporozhye under accurate artillery attack by the Russians.


Ukrainian UAV shot down by Russian AD near the Rostov border.

Level of the Dnieper near Enerhodar is insane low if it's true, searching other pictures:


Will not require a lot to cross it. Defences will need to be sorted out to cover the risk of crossings if it have a chance to dry a little and give some firm ground.