The War in the Ukraine

Deino said:

So you really think they indeed hit two Leo 2??

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FairAndUnbiased said:

Is it possible that the dam just collapsed by itself and neither side hit it?

It was damaged during the Kherson battle last year and in late May the Kakhovka Reservoir was being filled high.

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pmc said:

I dont associate this picture with Leo 2. The video on VK is longer and more drone use. They did hit if they claim but may or may not want to release the actual footage. but even older Ka-52 can see clearly. these are experience people they would have modeled every armored vehicle.

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FairAndUnbiased said:

Is it possible that the dam just collapsed by itself and neither side hit it?

It was damaged during the Kherson battle last year and in late May the Kakhovka Reservoir was being filled high.

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FairAndUnbiased said:

Is it possible that the dam just collapsed by itself and neither side hit it?

It was damaged during the Kherson battle last year and in late May the Kakhovka Reservoir was being filled high.

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The very large hydroelectric powerplant (HPP) dam over the Dniepr in northern Kherson oblast (region) has been destroyed. Exactly what happened is unclear, Ukraine and its western allies blame Russia. Some russian sources blame Ukraine. There is also a third alternative. The dam could have been damaged from earlier explosions.

Ukraine did its best during the Khersonoffensive to cut the road on top of the dam with serveral missile strikes, and the dam might have got structural damage then. Earlier this year Ukraine closed the reservoirs further north on the Dniepr and some experts thought that was to lower the water level in the reservoir to make offensive operations easier. But later Ukraine opened up the water. The reservoir has been filling up with this water and it has put pressure on the Nova Kakhovka dam.

There are no reasons for Russia to blow up the dam, since the water flowing to the south will mainly overflow the russian left eastern side of the river and the russian fortifications there. So the main alternatives are either that the ukrainian side destroyed the dam, but no large explosions has been seen, in preparation for the summer offensive, or that the dam collapsed under water pressure due to structural damage.

The dam continue to collapse in sections and the water level in the reservoir sink with 15 cm each hour. For now there are no problems with cooling of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant (ZNPP). But it might have to be closed if cooling becomes a problem.

If the ukrainian side close the dams north of the reservoir, water levels can get very low in the reservoir. It will make an attack over the reservoir much easier, but first the freed bottom must dry up, otherwise it will be hard to support anything else than very light infantry units. South of the dam some swy it will make an ukrainian attack easier since russian defence lines will be destroyed, but for a while the left eastern back will be overflowed and the Dniepr much broader. This will make it hard to build bridges and move heavy equipment over the river.

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Right_People said:

It all depends on how far away they are, they are probably operating at the maximum range that the weapons they are using will allow them, it should be taken into account.
We just don't have the data.

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baykalov said:

A satellite service in France measures the water levels of lakes and water reservoirs like the Nova Khakovka Dam. The data suggests that Ukraine artificially raised the water level in the reservoir to the highest level just before the dam was destroyed.

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