It seems after seeing there are people who believe their 100% interception claims, Ukraine made such claims default.
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Honestly, seems that whenever there is a Patriot launch, one of the missiles fired is bound to hit the area though some reports claim this is an IRIS-T but who knows.
I honestly think Zelensky's claims is actually for the foreign market since at the end of the day, it is NATO keeping him alive which is why he keeps making questionable choices like prolonging Bakhmut. He must operating under the assumption that if he fools the general public in the west, the people will pressure their own governments to keep sending aid.
Compilation of all the shotdown claims made by Ukraine in May. They claim to have shotdown 7 Kinzhals after saying Russia has only fired 5 at them.
You are you going to believe? The Kiev government or your lying eyes?
58th Special Purpose Battalion whatever that means, sends an ATGM to a Ukrainian IFV, after it was revealed thought infrared vision. The height of these vehicles makes them an easy target.
An M113 gets hit directly, probably from an ATGM, while it was observed by a Russian drone.
The use of an Orlan 30, an MSTA-B and a Krasnopol round is observed for this video, and targeting a vital bridge infrastructure.
Ukrainian troop grouping, revealed by a Russian UAV's thermal vision, gets pounded by artillery.
Ukrainian holdout in the Dniepr River, spotted and observed by Russian UAV. Artillery dispatched and obliterated it
At last some Marinka footage. Russian drone observed a Ukrainian shelter and hold out with some pickups and artillery was called in.
An M113 gets hit directly, probably from an ATGM, while it was observed by a Russian drone.
The use of an Orlan 30, an MSTA-B and a Krasnopol round is observed for this video, and targeting a vital bridge infrastructure.
Ukrainian troop grouping, revealed by a Russian UAV's thermal vision, gets pounded by artillery.
Ukrainian holdout in the Dniepr River, spotted and observed by Russian UAV. Artillery dispatched and obliterated it
At last some Marinka footage. Russian drone observed a Ukrainian shelter and hold out with some pickups and artillery was called in.
It's for the US public. They need to be told their politicians are doing a good job and spending money wisely. It's no different to Gulf war I with the 100% scud interception claim.
This war has totally exposed the myth of American technological superiority. Add Patriot to the list with M777, Javelin, etc.
Exposed American myth? What are you talking about? You act as if M777 came with a cloaking device and somehow Russians were able to defeat it. It's just a Howitzer it is the pro-Russians that have made it something that is not. As for the Patriot it has done its job. It has been targeted by Russia and they have failed to take it out that is just a fact. It's still there and your side has absolute no proof it has been taken out like many in here wish/claim. Btw the Patriot battery is not alone in Kyiv not every missile launch is the Patriot.
And do I really need to get into the Javelin?
Eh, there's definitely been people on the pro-US/pro-Ukrainian side conveying some myth/talking up how good western equipment such as M777, Patriot, Javelin etc. is.
I really have some problems with such posts … from both sides since anyone must know that the first victim of war is always the truth even more so since we know that both sides lie.
I however would rate any Russian claim still much lower than OSINT reports from various sources. For official Ukrainian sources I would prefer to abstain a comment.
Depends on what the reporting is. A lot of "OSINT" reports are very much a regurgitation of Ukrainian claims.
And I think we all know how reliable Ukrainian claims are. About as reliable as Russian ones if not less so, we have to be honest with ourselves.
Considering this night video. And typical 100% interception bs from Ukrainian propaganda this night. It is just your bias. Ukrainians right now in war propaganda mode. And a huge chunk of western sources just parrot them without verification.
Photo/video/Territorial control are the only things that are relevant, and even them often need to be checked.