The War in the Ukraine

Deino

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gelgoog

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To me this looks like zero evidence of a successful shootdown. Heck, Georgia got a whole booster stage of an Iskander dropped on a house back in 2008.
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That was in better shape than the scrap they presented.
 

sheogorath

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oh come on ... no-one claimed this to be the external hull of the missile but we have plenty enough details including the fins, attachment points and so on to be quite sure; most likely this is just the "hardened" part of the warhead.

The pictures are of the loss of a Kinzhal over Russian territory, not the one claimed to have been downed in Ukraine, as it is mentioned in the tweet and the fact that it has its engine cover still attached which is what the arrows are pointing at which wouldn't be present on a fired rocket.
 

SolarWarden

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It is not impossible that a Kinzhal could get intercepted or fail for whatever reason. But the Patriot is notoriously unreliable on such a task, especially the older systems sent to Ukraine.
Exactly how do you know what system was sent to Ukraine?
 

HighGround

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Exactly how do you know what system was sent to Ukraine?
We don't, but similarly, we can't accept claims uncritically, regardless of their source.

This is plausibly a Kinzhal missile, and the balance of evidence support that conclusion. People need to get over it.

At the same time, the people who hyped the Kinzhal and its interception the most, are Western outlets, while simultaneously deriding it. It's a little contradictory and embarrassing if I'm being honest. People need to pick a lane.
 
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