The War in the Ukraine

Stealthflanker

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The F-16 is poorly suited to Ukraine. It has a weak undercarriage, and is poorly suited to the crappy airfields Ukraine has available. They would be better off with the Gripen or the Super Hornet.

What do you think of possibility of Ukrainian using NATO airbase for their sorties ?
 

gelgoog

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What do you think of possibility of Ukrainian using NATO airbase for their sorties ?
That would make NATO party to the conflict according to the laws of war. Russia could then strike those airbases.
The Kinzhal and Kalibr have enough range to do it. The Kinzhal has enough range to hit targets all the way to the Pyrenees from within Russian airspace when you use the MiG-31K as the launch platform. Kalibr has even more range.
 

Soldier30

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An episode of the battle of the Russian Airborne Forces in Ukraine. An episode of the battle of the Russian airborne units of the Torunsky regiment in the forest near Kremennaya was published


The servicemen of the Russian Airborne Forces showed in detail how to use the 120-mm mortar 2B11 and talked about its use in Ukraine.


Footage of the work of the crew of the Russian 152-mm self-propelled howitzer 2S3 "Acacia" in Ukraine. The firing range of the Acacia self-propelled guns with a high-explosive fragmentation projectile is 18,500 meters, and an active-rocket projectile is 24,000 meters. Like many self-propelled guns of high power, the howitzer is loaded separately-sleeve, that is, a projectile is first sent into the bore, and then a sleeve with a propellant charge. Detailed characteristics of the ACS 2S3 "Acacia" are on the channel.


Experience of using a gun against PARS drones in Ukraine. A Russian soldier spoke about the experience of using guns against drones in Ukraine. The video shows a complex for the suppression of drones PARS


Russian servicemen showed captured Ukrainian mines DM22 PARM 2 made in Germany. The DM-22 anti-tank mine is equipped with an infrared sensor and has an autonomous power supply for 30 days, the mine is usually installed along the roads. When armored vehicles pass nearby, a cumulative missile with a warhead mass of 1.9 kg is activated in a DM22 mine and hits a target at a distance of up to 100 meters. The PARM 2 mine is manually deployed and has an arming delay of five minutes. The mine can also be activated via cable. The armor penetration of mines is 750 mm of armor.

 

supersnoop

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Article about the prospects of the UAF and the comments from an Ukranian pilot, namely, the guy who has lost two MiG-29's to Gerans.

The article also mentions that Russians have changed tactics and its taking its toll on the Ukranian Air Force; the Russians send a lone plane as bait and as soon the Ukranians launch planes to intercept the bait, they are pounced by multiple fighters



These are the guys pushing the narrative that the Ukranians can learn to fly F-16's or Typhoons in just 6 months



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Honestly, the F-16 thing is a stupid distraction. These spokespeople need to shut up about it.

There have been a few posters here clamouring for them to be sent over, and I said it was so stupid.

6 months will make them able to fly at a basic level, they won't be able to exploit the plane to the full performance envelope due to inexperience.

NATO is supposed to get 15 flight hours per month on a yearly basis, now you want to compress the number of training hours into 6 months? This is not including classroom and other instruction. It is not a matter of will, but absolute physical and biological constraints.

The time, money, and possibly lives spent on such a project would be a total waste. Far more sensible to continue to concentrate on strengthening their ground forces.
 

siegecrossbow

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Honestly, the F-16 thing is a stupid distraction. These spokespeople need to shut up about it.

There have been a few posters here clamouring for them to be sent over, and I said it was so stupid.

6 months will make them able to fly at a basic level, they won't be able to exploit the plane to the full performance envelope due to inexperience.

NATO is supposed to get 15 flight hours per month on a yearly basis, now you want to compress the number of training hours into 6 months? This is not including classroom and other instruction. It is not a matter of will, but absolute physical and biological constraints.

The time, money, and possibly lives spent on such a project would be a total waste. Far more sensible to continue to concentrate on strengthening their ground forces.

Not your daddy’s NATO Air Force… Flight hours have dropped pretty significantly, especially post COVID.
 

Botnet

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"FPV drones will be among the drones, for the purchase of which at least UAH20 billion [around USD543 million] will be allocated for Ukrainian soldiers this year."

That would be at least a 100,000 FPV drones. Do the Russians have anything to deal with them besides EW systems? These could be used in masse to soften up Russian lines before a Ukrainian offensive.
 

Stealthflanker

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That would be at least a 100,000 FPV drones. Do the Russians have anything to deal with them besides EW systems? These could be used in masse to soften up Russian lines before a Ukrainian offensive.

Do they need to be dealt with more than EW tho. Also 100000 Drones of what ? If they are DJI Drones, how the Ukrainian will control them all ? having 100000 soldiers controlling each drone ? That's some considerable electronic signature there
 

Botnet

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Do they need to be dealt with more than EW tho. Also 100000 Drones of what ? If they are DJI Drones, how the Ukrainian will control them all ? having 100000 soldiers controlling each drone ? That's some considerable electronic signature there
It said they're trying to localize production, but I have no idea what drones they're going to buy. It wouldn't be 100,000 operators, special drone units a couple hundred strong would be able to deal a lot of damage to Russian equipment. The Ukrainians have been using FPV drones to pretty good effect so far, based on the videos I've seen.
 
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