That's a looooong list for Afghanistan for nations who have lost to it.
The War in the Ukraine
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That's a looooong list for Afghanistan for nations who have lost to it.
Lets be fair: Russia is fighting against infinite supply of NATO missiles.
Alas, I was expecting RuAF to tally dominate the skies and not even let a fly to fly and border crossing to ineffective large amount of these shipments.
lol... Its first customer was USAF
It's the difference between fighting in a dry country and a murky one... Russia got one month of cloud in Ukraine and needed to fly in manpads zone a lot to find targets...
Yeah i also expect Russian aircrafts to fly down to Lviv or western side of the country to carry strikes. Belarus gave good stepping stone there but as we see it's Kalibr, Kh-101, Iskanders and R-500's doing the job.
Well not every nation calls itself nr.1 though
I remember it wasn't that long ago all the media was saying the war have to be over by 9th of May because that's Victory Day and Putin declared that as the deadline, and anyway after this date Russia would be out of strength to continue fighting.
Even then I wasn't convinced. Usually when people say "war will be over by Christmas" or something like that it doesn't work out well. What's to say Russia can't keep this up for years and keep grinding forward slowly.
On that note, I note that people do say NATO's MIC is much bigger than Russian MIC and yes it's true. But the underlying assumption is that when US send Ukraine a billion dollar worth of military assets it will take Russia a billion dollars equivalent to destroy them on the battlefield and I just don't think that's true. With Russian air superiority and cruise missiles raining down on supply lines the exchange rate is way way worse than that, 20-to-1 or 30-to-1 have been quoted. Now the question of who will be exhausted first is not so clear.
Let's make it clear. Missiles are not infinite even by NATO. Especially from NATO. Requires a huge amount of politicking and bureaucracy to clear them for orders first, then it takes a lot of time and money. Economic crisis, inflation, chip shortages, shortages of chemicals and other stuff means they will cost much more to make than they were in the 2000s. Most certainly they will not ship state of the art stuff which they keep for their own but the older missiles that are near obsolete and expired.
Suffice to say, the Russians are getting a better exchange when they trade a Kalibr or Iskander for a warehouse of these missiles and NATO equipment.
Much better and more threatening if NATO supplied cheap howitzer shells, not even guided ones, along with older, simpler howitzer with less electronics and complicated stuff, so people can be trained in the use of these in the shortest time possible instead of the several months it takes to train an effective artillery person. Unfortunately if you happen to lose trained personnel, this supply is not infinite and far more limited, and no amount of shipped ordnance can replace them quick enough.
lol... Its first customer was USAF
I think China already has some kind of military use only 5G or Starlink kind of constellation, ahead of the civilian implementation. I already mentioned about the use of circular flat panel satcoms in the Chinese Navy threads that have been rapidly appearing in all Chinese Navy ships, down to the old ones, all in recent years. These satcoms are likely to be connected to such a constellation. The rapid deployment and proliferation of these satcoms tell you they are that important. These are not part of the pre-existing ship contract, so let's say, a new 055 or 052D will be finished and get commissioned without them and soon after that, ship goes back and gets fitted with the new satcoms.