An American merc taken out by a Kornet ATGM caught on camera:
The War in the Ukraine
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Why make this assumption? Quite a few planes were shot down by Georgian Buk systems. It doesn't seem like Russia/USSR had ever counted on needing to jam the non-export versions of weapons. However, you could make the argument that they should have learned this lesson by now.
I have generally have the same assessment as you as I don't believe the objective was ever conquest of the country.
Adding one more point, not sure if this was one of the “other considerations” you were thinking of, but many of these “Territorial Defense Units” were private militias run by the oligarchs like Kolomoisky. I'm told within Russian circles there was a belief the some of these oligarchs would defect or otherwise not fall in line with the government in the wake of this operation, influencing the outcome.
Wagner Su-24M was hit by a MANPAD and managed to return to base
According to a turkish sites citing Mossad sources(needs to be taken with a sack of salt), Ukranian losses sit at around 157.000 dead and 234.000 wounded with around +6000 armored vehicles lost.
Russian losses are around +18.000 dead and +44.000 wounded with 889 armored vehicle losts.
Noticeable the difference of captured soldiers, with 17.000 Ukranian solders having been made POWs to Russia's 323. Either the Russians have managed to avoid capture(doubtful) or there POW executions are systematic..
According to a turkish sites citing Mossad sources(needs to be taken with a sack of salt), Ukranian losses sit at around 157.000 dead and 234.000 wounded with around +6000 armored vehicles lost.
Russian losses are around +18.000 dead and +44.000 wounded with 889 armored vehicle losts.
Noticeable the difference of captured soldiers, with 17.000 Ukranian solders having been made POWs to Russia's 323. Either the Russians have managed to avoid capture(doubtful) or there POW executions are systematic..
if the rumour is right about 1500 ukrainian troops cutoff in paraskivka, then it can be assumed that in all of bakhmut theatre there are about 10k ukrianian troops. lets say about half of them manage to retreat, then you are looking at a loss of 5000 troops. that is a full brigade wiped out.
Tbh if there were noticeably problematic amounts of pow executions, Russia would likely have said something about it already. Why would they help Ukraine cover that up?
There are other more plausible explanations such as Russian formations simply retaining cohesion better when their missions fail as well as Russian ability to follow a local victory and encircle, take captive big groups of enemies at once. Whereas Ukraine mostly only has the coordination capacity to kill Russian soldiers piecemeal when they chose to advance poorly, but not surround a big group.
That American, Reed was a volunteer aid worker not a mercenary.
Related to the photo of Vuledar/Ugledar that I posted earlier-
More information about this photo. The area that is blackened is from the southeastern corner and was subject to Russian annihilation methods. Thermobarbaric Artillery & PGM. This settlement was originally a mass of dachas. The Tos MLRS footage implies that the Russians have a district-level general headquarters asset (engineer brigade?) in the area.
Russian forces are attacking from this direction and are trying to take the city.
More information about this photo. The area that is blackened is from the southeastern corner and was subject to Russian annihilation methods. Thermobarbaric Artillery & PGM. This settlement was originally a mass of dachas. The Tos MLRS footage implies that the Russians have a district-level general headquarters asset (engineer brigade?) in the area.
Russian forces are attacking from this direction and are trying to take the city.
Terminators terminating at Ukrainian positions. Trophy remains of the handiwork apparently include a large quadcopter drone with mortar shells. This should be around Kremennaya.
Kaskad artillery battalion targets a makeshift Ukrainian headquarters with artillery. This should be around Ugledar. A failed Ukrainian counterattack had the Kaskad taking prisoners before.
Ukrainian troops getting targeted by artillery at a forest line. No escaping the eyes of a drone. Warning to viewers, there is death scene.
DPR ATGM hits a Ukrainian troop company tracked by thermal.
Kaskad artillery battalion targets a makeshift Ukrainian headquarters with artillery. This should be around Ugledar. A failed Ukrainian counterattack had the Kaskad taking prisoners before.
Ukrainian troops getting targeted by artillery at a forest line. No escaping the eyes of a drone. Warning to viewers, there is death scene.
DPR ATGM hits a Ukrainian troop company tracked by thermal.
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Are these figures legit or did they print it off of google?
And we have to remember that Russian troops are actual soldiers that are part of an actual military formation at the end of the day while many Ukrainian soldiers, particularly those from the Territorial Defense Force, are basically militia and consist of recent draftees with extremely little military training.