The War in the Ukraine

ansy1968

Brigadier
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So much cope. "Not accurate". Well they seem pretty accurate to me. I have seen Iskander strikes on S-300 missile launchers and Buks. If it can hit a Buk it is pretty accurate to me. They seem as accurate as possible given existing GLONASS accuracy.
@gelgoog bro for me, whatever the US reported the actual use of the weapon in combat situation is the most important, it's a valuable experience and lesson to correct the defect IF any to future iteration and variants.
 

Abominable

Major
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Subs are for hunting, not for blockade. They can augment a task group focused on blockading but they cannot be alone on that mission.

They need surface ships for that
German submarines were able to blockage the UK fine in both world wars. Surface ships are still fine blockading the Ukraine, they just do it from further out.

US providing Ukraine with anti-ship missiles is strange. They've already got Harpoons from the UK. Why add another platform? Unless the remaining missiles have all expired. Or maybe they're planning a Hezbollah style suicide missile boat. It's not going to change anything other than increasing logistical difficulties.
 

gelgoog

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"Okay team, let's take a look at a brain-dead talking point that's been making the rounds lately. Namely, that regardless of the outcome of the war in Ukraine that Russia's strategic position will worsen due to the accession of Sweden and Finland to NATO.
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The Swedish Army is capable of forming a grand total of two brigades right now. This is the equivalent of Latvia or Estonia and is insufficient to even secure the country in the event of a war, let along attack anyone.
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Sweden has 71 fighters, all older Saab 39 Gripens. Finland has 55 fighters (F-18s), with 64 new F-35s on order to replace them.
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The Finnish Army can put together six brigades capable of offensive combat operations, and another six territorial defense brigades for security purposes.
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I've seen people say that Finland has the ability to mobilize something like 400,000 reservists, but these would be light infantry with no supporting arms.
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By comparison, pre-war Ukraine had no fewer than fifty-one brigades between its army and paramilitary National Guard, plus another twenty-five territorial defense brigades.
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As such Russia's postwar strategic situation in the event of victory in Ukraine but Finland and Sweden joining NATO would be the equivalent of replacing a massive, well-armed enemy to its south with two more NATO Baltic states."
 

Soldier30

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A soldier of Ukraine spoke about the catastrophic state of affairs at the front and the consequences of Russian artillery strikes and the Grad MLRS in Ukraine. The combat work of the MLRS "Grad" of Russia in Ukraine and the story of a serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine further in the video. A short translation of the Ukrainian soldier's speech about the situation at the front. “The strikes of Russian artillery and the Grad MLRS go exactly where they need to, everything is in smoke, everything is constantly under fire, everything is destroyed, the trenches are broken, there is constant shelling, there is no support for Ukrainian artillery yet, they have been shelling for three days already, there is no reaction from Ukrainian artillery everything is falling apart"


Supplies of Western weapons to Ukraine are in full swing. Dutch tracked armored vehicles YPR-765 were spotted in Ukraine without regular weapons. The YPR-765 armored personnel carrier was developed in the USA in 1970 on the basis of the M113 armored personnel carrier. The Pentagon was not interested in it and the license for its production was sold to the Netherlands. The YPR-765 BMP delivered to Ukraine turned out to be without a turret with an automatic cannon and without a paired machine gun.

 

Soldier30

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"Okay team, let's take a look at a brain-dead talking point that's been making the rounds lately. Namely, that regardless of the outcome of the war in Ukraine that Russia's strategic position will worsen due to the accession of Sweden and Finland to NATO.
...
The Swedish Army is capable of forming a grand total of two brigades right now. This is the equivalent of Latvia or Estonia and is insufficient to even secure the country in the event of a war, let along attack anyone.
...
Sweden has 71 fighters, all older Saab 39 Gripens. Finland has 55 fighters (F-18s), with 64 new F-35s on order to replace them.
...
The Finnish Army can put together six brigades capable of offensive combat operations, and another six territorial defense brigades for security purposes.
...
I've seen people say that Finland has the ability to mobilize something like 400,000 reservists, but these would be light infantry with no supporting arms.
...
By comparison, pre-war Ukraine had no fewer than fifty-one brigades between its army and paramilitary National Guard, plus another twenty-five territorial defense brigades.
...
As such Russia's postwar strategic situation in the event of victory in Ukraine but Finland and Sweden joining NATO would be the equivalent of replacing a massive, well-armed enemy to its south with two more NATO Baltic states."

It's funny to read sometimes. I am amazed at the generals of NATO and the United States, the more NATO expands, the closer China and Russia come together, the combination of advanced Russian military equipment and a huge number of Chinese military personnel makes these armies invincible. Weak Russia is unprofitable for China, weak China is also unprofitable for Russia, alone they are unable to resist NATO. The mistake of the United States is that many years ago it was necessary to accept Russia into NATO, now the United States has two enemies, NATO is unable to resist this pair
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Those were not my words: “I'm not going to start Third World War for you," General Jackson told the US commander, according to Newsweek.

According to James Blunt (famous singer):
In an interview with BBC Radio 5 live, broadcast on Sunday, he said: "I was given the direct command to overpower the 200 or so Russians who were there.”

"The direct command [that] came in from Gen Wesley Clark was to overpower them. Various words were used that seemed unusual to us. Words such as 'destroy' came down the radio."

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Sir Gen. Mike Jackson was hyperventilating when he angrily protested what he thought was an escalatory and even disproportionate response to the income K-FORCE (Russia) that was being sent without notifying NATO SHAPE headquarters which Clark believed was in a way for Russia to partition their own enclave which Clark presumed would not only complicate the phase IV/post-conflict operations.

The order for Jackson was to simply parked a couple of armored vehicles blocking the runways on Pristina Airport which Jackson vehemently opposed leading him to explode with that infamous statement and had to then call his superior officer under the British Military chain of command which was Sir Gen. Charles Guthrie. The situation was resolved when Clark managed to have a bunch of military choppers parked on the runway.

As for the nonsense that Clark used the word "destroy" is nothing but pure drivel and creative recreation from Capt.James "Your beautiful" Blunt who was also British just like Wacko Jackson.

I read both Clark's Waging Modern War (a book about his experience in Kosovo and he also detailed the issues he faced with his insubordinate subordinate officer that was Mike Jackson) I also read Mike Jackson's book discussing his own version of the truth which was more or less the same plus his clear animus attack on Clark's apparent lack of respect within the U.S. military establishment which was beneath Jackson's stature for engaging in baseless gossip.
 

Atomicfrog

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The YPR-765 BMP delivered to Ukraine turned out to be without a turret with an automatic cannon and without a paired machine gun.
Still better than nothing... They are using latest supply on the front quite fast, 777 have been rushed and Polish t-72 too. It look like they keep their nicest stuff in the west or they are already in dust...
 

sheogorath

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Still better than nothing... They are using latest supply on the front quite fast, 777 have been rushed and Polish t-72 too. It look like they keep their nicest stuff in the west or they are already in dust...

M113 and its derivatives are death traps in any high intensity conflicts, though. Also, unlike BTR's and BMP, they aren't amphibious, so I guess they don't plan on crossing the Dnipro either.
 

gelgoog

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Supplies of Western weapons to Ukraine are in full swing. Dutch tracked armored vehicles YPR-765 were spotted in Ukraine without regular weapons. The YPR-765 armored personnel carrier was developed in the USA in 1970 on the basis of the M113 armored personnel carrier. The Pentagon was not interested in it and the license for its production was sold to the Netherlands. The YPR-765 BMP delivered to Ukraine turned out to be without a turret with an automatic cannon and without a paired machine gun.
Those vehicles might have been kept in storage without the guns. Then taken out of storage and sent as is.

That vehicle uses the Oerlikon KBA 25mm autocannon made in Switzerland. And the Swiss already said they won't supply 30mm shells for the Gepard to be sent to Ukraine. I doubt they would allow the autocannons to be sent either.

M113 and its derivatives are death traps in any high intensity conflicts, though. Also, unlike BTR's and BMP, they aren't amphibious, so I guess they don't plan on crossing the Dnipro either.
The M113 chassis is made of aluminium. In Iraq insurgents sometimes managed to ignite them with IEDs. That was why there was a major program to deploy the MRAP. It should be highly vulnerable to either mines or the thermobaric ammo the Russians use.
 
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Janiz

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"Okay team, let's take a look at a brain-dead talking point that's been making the rounds lately. Namely, that regardless of the outcome of the war in Ukraine that Russia's strategic position will worsen due to the accession of Sweden and Finland to NATO.
...
The Swedish Army is capable of forming a grand total of two brigades right now. This is the equivalent of Latvia or Estonia and is insufficient to even secure the country in the event of a war, let along attack anyone.
...
Sweden has 71 fighters, all older Saab 39 Gripens. Finland has 55 fighters (F-18s), with 64 new F-35s on order to replace them.
...
The Finnish Army can put together six brigades capable of offensive combat operations, and another six territorial defense brigades for security purposes.
...
I've seen people say that Finland has the ability to mobilize something like 400,000 reservists, but these would be light infantry with no supporting arms.
...
By comparison, pre-war Ukraine had no fewer than fifty-one brigades between its army and paramilitary National Guard, plus another twenty-five territorial defense brigades.
...
As such Russia's postwar strategic situation in the event of victory in Ukraine but Finland and Sweden joining NATO would be the equivalent of replacing a massive, well-armed enemy to its south with two more NATO Baltic states."
Wrong thread and forum.
 
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