The War in the Ukraine

colorwolf99 said:

Any trained personnel, equipment, parts, & facilities General Dynamics already has committed to existing orders would also have to be diverted to make those Ukraine bound tanks fit for service. So there's a question of priority and whether you delay deliveries to other customers.

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Delivery of Javelin, Stringer, TOW-2 and AGM-88 to ROC has already been delayed due to this war, why not M1A2T.

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I've suspected as much before that ISR help is the easiest way for China to help Russia. I don't think sanction in this case will help Ukraine, as this company is now going to go "fuck it I'm already sanctioned, I'll sell any satellite image you are interested in"

Temstar said:

Delivery of Javelin, Stringer, TOW-2 and AGM-88 to ROC has already been delayed due to this war, why not M1A2T.

In other news:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618677825149739011

I've suspected as much before that ISR help is the easiest way for China to help Russia. I don't think sanction in this case will help Ukraine, as this company is now going to go "fuck it I'm already sanctioned, I'll sell any satellite image you are interested in"

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Do we know how good the ISR they offer in terms of resolution and real time coverage?

luosifen said:

Do we know how good the ISR they offer in terms of resolution and real time coverage?

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Company formed in 2015, seems to focus on small sats:

天仪研究院是中国首批商业航天公司之一，秉承“让航天触手可及”的愿景，通过研发低成本微小卫星，将卫星应用到更多的商业领域。天仪研究院仅成立3年，已成功发射十多颗卫星，为包括中科院、航天科技集团、清华大学等在内的十几家科研院所、大学和商业企业提供短周期、低成本、一站式的微小卫星星座整体解决方案。天仪研究院是国际宇航联合会的正式会员，在卫星发射数量、技术研发程度、融资金额及轮次等均处于国内民营公司的领先地位。

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Here's their official Weibo

, and sure enough in the sanction it says "and its subsidiary Spacety Luxembourg"

They seem to have a specialization in synthetic aperture radar images, eg:





Does SAR have much application in urban combat given this was with Wagner?

12 downed HIMARS missiles by this Pantsyr.

Tam said:

12 downed HIMARS missiles by this Pantsyr.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618702970874650624

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If accurate, the HIMARS must have really caught the Russian's off-guard when first deployed. Seemed like they were scoring hits everyday during the outset of the war, similar to the Turkish drone Baykar Bayraktar TB-2. Though it is impressive that to this point the HIMARS units seem to have avoided being attacked, especially with those Lancet drones Russia has been using recently.

I think it is kind of interesting to see the ebb and flow of the conflict, as one side introduces a new weapon, technology or tactic and gains some sort of temporary upper hand until the adversary develops an effective countermeasure.

EDIT: Also, I just have to say I think the Abrams is the best looking tank ever made! It just looks like what tank should look like! Like a G.I. Joe tank or something.

Temstar said:

Company formed in 2015, seems to focus on small sats:

Here's their official Weibo

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, and sure enough in the sanction it says "and its subsidiary Spacety Luxembourg"

They seem to have a specialization in synthetic aperture radar images, eg:

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Does SAR have much application in urban combat given this was with Wagner?

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The spacety website has expired certificate (sanctions kicking in I guess) but said they have top end commercial C band SAR and can give results to customers in 6 hours after taking them. That would be enough to plan an attack beforehand but not enough to change your plan once combat starts. I assume they would use drones and UAVs for real time recon.

This chain of escalation is going to have a profound effect on any adventures Russia decides to go on in the future. Now that the West is able to provide modern tanks without any retaliation from Russia side, next time Russia is pushy with its neighbours the west can justify instantly escalating to tanks without fear of WW3.

I did some more digging on Spacety, I'm rather impressed with their little satellites:

海丝一号卫星是国内首颗对标国际先进指标的、基于有源相控阵天线的百公斤级（整星＜185㎏）、1米分辨率、C波段商业SAR遥感卫星，可以穿透云层，不受时间和恶劣条件限制，获取全天时、全天候的二维高分辨雷达数据 ，将为海洋动力环境参数的遥感反演、海洋灾害监测、洪水监测和地表形变分析等提供支持。

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巢湖一号卫星是中国“天仙星座”项目的首发星，其应用需求由天地信息网络研究院（安徽）有限公司提出，天仪研究院为卫星总体，中国电子科技集团公司第三十八研究所（简称“中国电科38所”）为载荷总体，联合负责卫星的研制。这也是天仪研究院与中国电科38所继联合研制我国首颗商业SAR卫星海丝一号后的第二次合作。

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2022年11月10日消息，中国电科发布了“天仙星座”首发星“巢湖一号”影像数据。“巢湖一号”SAR卫星最高分辨率1米，可以6小时应急成像。目前，具备在轨实时成像能力，并成功与国内首颗商业SAR卫星“海丝一号”组网运行，标志着国产商业SAR卫星正式进入批产组网时。

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So company has two satellites in the SAR constellation right now, Hisea-1 and Chaohu-1. Both are under 185kg, C band 1m resolution all weather SAR. The company built the satellite platform while China Electronics Technology Group Corporation No.38 Institute built the instruments. Each can get you an image in 6 hours. They were launched in December 2020 and Feb 2022.



Of particular note, in the early stages of the war when Russian was holding Antonov Airport and they got shelled, and the image showed it didn't look good. This happened on 28th of Feb so Hisea-1 must have took that photo fast with the 6 hour timeline, as word first got out that An-225 might have been destroyed on 27th of Feb.


Perhaps this capability impressed someone.

Temstar said:

Delivery of Javelin, Stringer, TOW-2 and AGM-88 to ROC has already been delayed due to this war, why not M1A2T.

In other news:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618677825149739011

I've suspected as much before that ISR help is the easiest way for China to help Russia. I don't think sanction in this case will help Ukraine, as this company is now going to go "fuck it I'm already sanctioned, I'll sell any satellite image you are interested in"

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How does the US know about this? Leaks from the Russian side I assume?

Atomicfrog said:

A diesel piston engine is quite more rugged than a turbine engine... it will just take some time to deliver them, better to have them in good working order. T-72 and other soviet damaged hulk could be salvaged in Urkraine, they have parts and know how but not these.

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Excuses excuses. If they really want to there are endless work arounds.

They can sent out last gen DU.
They can give Poland Abrams to exchange PT-91.
They can ask Koreans to sell their K1.
Ask Japanese for old Type 74.
They can pay Germany to sell Leopards.
They can buy Leopards from Canada and send it against German will.
Or they can be not caring and give out high tech weapon like in cold war, there will always be better tanks down the line.
They can buy soviet tanks from Asia.
If they are desperate they can ask Africans to sell the Chinese export tanks.