So random screenshots of telegram messages whose authenticity cannot be verified are the "Russian sources" you are refering to ?
Btw the second tweet you shared is from an account named "NAFO fella". Not suspicious at all...
The War in the Ukraine
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Btw the second tweet you shared is from an account named "NAFO fella". Not suspicious at all...
Well at this point it's just be another game of exxagerating or discounting the effects of the attacks.
But the attack does happen, and no CRAM means apparently stationed there, which is unfortunate. Also telegram other than provider of vids and images are just like twitter and others. a Rumor mills one should tread carefully.
But the attack does happen, and no CRAM means apparently stationed there, which is unfortunate. Also telegram other than provider of vids and images are just like twitter and others. a Rumor mills one should tread carefully.
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Apparently russians stored ammo near their barracks.
I don't see any remnants of military equipment. A hut standing next to it is still standing. Given the size of the square, this is only a small vocational school.
Ministry of Defence statement on strike against our troops in Makiivka: four rockets with high-explosive warheads hit a temporary deployment point and killed 63 Russian soldiers
All necessary assistance and support will be provided to the families and friends of the killed servicemen.
@Slavyngrad
@rybar About the New Year's tragedy in Donetsk, Makeevka
At 00.01 on January 1, 2023, the vocational school building in Donetsk Makeyevka was hit by HIMARS MLRS (two shells intercepted by air defense, four reached the target). Since mid-December, a 14444 regiment has been stationed at the vocational school. Yes, they were all mobilized. In the same place, due to someone's criminal naivety, they decided to place a warehouse with ammunition, which detonated as a result of the strike.
According to our information, there were about 600 people in the building.
The mobilized claim that the responsibility lies with the commander of the regiment, Colonel Roman Yenikeyev. We partially disagree with them: the colonel's fault is only that he blindly followed the instructions of his superiors and could not achieve the resettlement of the unit entrusted to him in accordance with the realities of the front.
The blame for the tragedy lies with the command of the 1st AK NM of the DPR — unfortunately, after the death of General Roman Kutuzov, common sense and intelligence information were neglected in the command of the association for the sake of some military science and expediency.
Versions of what happened have already appeared on the Internet — this is the use of , and enemy agents on the ground. Everyone is to blame, except the management, who decided to choose the place of the most compact accommodation.
The blow to the vocational school is not the first case on the conscience of the corps command. On August 12, the enemy artillery worked on the KP, which was located in the building of the Leninskaya mine management. And even intelligence information about the impending strike did not lead to any conclusions - as a result, a tragedy happened.
Strelkov lol
Even the twitter bots on that thread doubt him as a source. He has a vested interest in shit talking as much as possible because he's mad that he got thrown out of command in the war.
The likes of Strelkov (as are other Russian telegram) also talk about 1000+ Ukranian dead in those villages near Bakhmut the last few days but I guess for the pro Ukranian, he is not a reliable source when he is talking about those losses...
Personally if I don't see pictures/evidence showing field hospitals overloaded I have a hard time believing either side is taking suddenly signficant casualties.
Its just a grind with a destroyed building here and there, some random footage of grenades from both side dropping by drone. Russians shooting krasnopol at lone vehicles. Footage of firefight between light infanteries etc. I would need more evidence than that for sensational claims about hundreds or thousands dead on either side.
It takes awhile after the actual battle to be able to see the results. Too much propaganda and random bullshit circulating. Let us remember for example when Ukraine suicide bombed the Kerch bridge, they had staged videos ready to go showing missiles that were taken like gospel on Twitter. Nothing can be trusted, especially not the twitterites.
TOS of the 1st Slavia Brigade opening fire at a forest of Ukrainian positions. Whoever is on the receiving end, this kind of weapons leaves little to no remains to find.
Ukrainian troop group getting literally blasted by a Russian mortar. I am guessing the work of a 203mm, a Pion or Malka.
Ukrainian troop group getting literally blasted by a Russian mortar. I am guessing the work of a 203mm, a Pion or Malka.
If the US did the 2003 invasion with the same level of p*ssyfooting and incompetence that the Russians have so far exhibited, then the Americans could have never occupied us not even in a million years.
As long as Russia doesn't change it's ways then Russia and it's future are F'ed.
Forget about Ukraine becoming another Afghanistan, if the Russians continue like this then this will be worse than Afghanistan.
Had they done war the right way from the beginning (ie: without mercy) then things would have been much easier for Russia.
But now it will be much more difficult, now they have to go all out, and by that I mean martial law, no one is allowed to leave. call up all the reserve, call up 2 million men or more, train them for some months and change the rules of engagement so that if there is a building with ten kids in it but one AFU soldier on top of it then you give that soldier a warning to withdraw and if he refuses to withdraw then the blood of the children are on his hands so you raze that building to the ground. that is how you win wars. The Americans can kill half a million kids with sanction and after that say it's worth it, as sad as it is to say but that is the correct way to do war. If you don't want to kill people then don't do war in the first place.
The only other alternative to that (that is other than losing) would be to nuke Ukraine.
As long as Russia doesn't change it's ways then Russia and it's future are F'ed.
Forget about Ukraine becoming another Afghanistan, if the Russians continue like this then this will be worse than Afghanistan.
Had they done war the right way from the beginning (ie: without mercy) then things would have been much easier for Russia.
But now it will be much more difficult, now they have to go all out, and by that I mean martial law, no one is allowed to leave. call up all the reserve, call up 2 million men or more, train them for some months and change the rules of engagement so that if there is a building with ten kids in it but one AFU soldier on top of it then you give that soldier a warning to withdraw and if he refuses to withdraw then the blood of the children are on his hands so you raze that building to the ground. that is how you win wars. The Americans can kill half a million kids with sanction and after that say it's worth it, as sad as it is to say but that is the correct way to do war. If you don't want to kill people then don't do war in the first place.
The only other alternative to that (that is other than losing) would be to nuke Ukraine.
May be not hundreds, more like dozens. But unfortunately still this was a slaughter.
Dozens dead in Ukrainian strike on Russian troops – Moscow
More than 60 Russian troops have been killed by a Ukrainian missile strike, Moscow confirmed on Monday. The bombardment hit a temporary housing area used by the Russian forces in Donbass.
The facility in the city of Makeyevka in Russia’s Donetsk People’s Republic was targeted by six missiles from US-supplied HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, the Defense ministry said. Two projectiles were intercepted by air defenses, but four made it through, the statement added.
"As a result of a strike by four missiles with high-explosive warheads on a temporary deployment point, 63 Russian servicemen were killed,” Defense Ministry spokesman Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov said during a briefing.