The War in the Ukraine

Atomicfrog

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One must wonder what’s going to happen in return. It’s not like the Russians will have much incentive to not go after the civilian infrastructure when the chances present itself. If this keeps on happening, we can expect the Russians to have less and less empathy when another massive missile strike goes off.
Well they strike more or less anything of value anyway... it's just that when they do it's warcrimes, while Ukrainian side can do whatever they likes...

Not a lot of Iskander-M strikes lately, maybe some will be used to make some big visible hits to do some bravado. But they need a nice target.

If Ukraine have pulled that strike with a high number of casualty, hats off to them, it's clearly Russian staff error to concentrate that much troops in range of a strike in one spot.
 

generalmeng

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There is no way to be sure that these are Russian social accounts and not Ukrainian trolls under the direction of the Ukrainian Center for Information and Psychological Special Operations.

There are many Ukrainian paid bots and trolls posing as Russians from Russia and their main task is to flood Russian social networks with fakes, disinformation and propaganda to destabilize Russian society from within. Now I remember that these Ukrainian trolls even posed as Dagestanis and tried to organise protests in Dagestan through social networks when the partial mobilisation was announced.
Maybe it's like 19 soldiers and 500 civilians? Not sure the details. Ukraine certainly isn't shy on shelling civilians. Ukraine propaganda is in overdrive. And I won't be surprise if the Americans are allowing Ukraine to use us facilities to run propaganda all over the world.
 

Tam

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Some nasty explosions here. Possibly some storage of a certain amount of ammunition has been hit.


TRIBUN-TIMUR.COM - There are many recordings circulating showing a series of attacks by the Russian Army on the positions of the Ukrainian Troops. The recording was widely circulated on Telegram on Saturday, December 31, 2022. Russian troops attacked from tanks, ATGMs, artillery and several other combat equipment. In the description of the upload, it was stated that the Russian Army attacked the Ukrainian Armed Forces positions near Lisichansk. A powerful explosion at the position of the Ukrainian Troops was recorded on a Russian drone camera.(*)


Wagner has improved their positions at the south of Bakhmut.



This is Russian propaganda but it doesn't mean this Ukrainian POW isn't telling the truth of his condition. Its up to you but I won't be surprised by it as it is in line with other accounts.

 

CrazyHorse

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Some nasty explosions here. Possibly some storage of a certain amount of ammunition has been hit.


TRIBUN-TIMUR.COM - There are many recordings circulating showing a series of attacks by the Russian Army on the positions of the Ukrainian Troops. The recording was widely circulated on Telegram on Saturday, December 31, 2022. Russian troops attacked from tanks, ATGMs, artillery and several other combat equipment. In the description of the upload, it was stated that the Russian Army attacked the Ukrainian Armed Forces positions near Lisichansk. A powerful explosion at the position of the Ukrainian Troops was recorded on a Russian drone camera.(*)


Wagner has improved their positions at the south of Bakhmut.



This is Russian propaganda but it doesn't mean this Ukrainian POW isn't telling the truth of his condition. Its up to you but I won't be surprised by it as it is in line with other accounts.

You cannot take any POW videos seriously, like at all.
 

Tam

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Something caused this place to go up like that. I suspect the place is hit by a TOS-1A even if the video commentary didn't say it.


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TRIBUN-TIMUR.COM - This is an amateur recording of moments when Russian artillery launched and caused a devastating explosion in Artemovsk. The building that was blown up was allegedly occupied by Ukrainian Soldiers. The recording was widely circulated on Telegram on Sunday, January 1, 2023. In the uploaded narrative, it was written that in Artemovsk there was a massive explosion. Russian artillery is said to have disabled Ukrainian Soldiers from occupied positions. Explosion after explosion is clearly visible from the footage of Russian reconnaissance drones. However, the exact number of Ukrainian Soldiers who died in this attack did not explain. In addition, Citizens of Ukraine also faced a dismal start to 2023, by facing more Russian missile and drone attacks on Sunday
 

Tam

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more Ukranians are freed in prisoner exchanges so likely more getting captured. past exchanges also one sided.
The war is subcontracted to Wagner. Also Ukranian air force try to do daring missions but Russian air force stays out of Western Ukraine.

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The Russians said they have over 10,000 Ukrainian prisoners. There are even interviews about POWs that have switched sides to fight for to the Russian side.

For all its worth, Wagner founder has said the Ukrainian defenders have fought tenaciously and bravely, so the demoralized may only be a minority.

Another thing, the Wagner presence in Bakhmut might be a bit overrated. Its clear there are also DPR and LPR forces in the area, and most importantly Russian Aerospace troops relocated from Kherson.

Unrelated.


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The 35-second footage shows the combat action of a tank crew of the RF Armed Forces from a firing position on the Ukrainian Armed Forces fortress towards Zaporozhye. It can be seen at the beginning of the recording that the condition of the area looks safe. But after how long, a powerful explosion immediately bombarded the Ukrainian Armed Forces fortification area. Not just once, powerful explosions occurred twice. You can see that the parked Ukrainian military vehicle was instantly destroyed when the Russian military destroyed it by launching a bomb attack. It is not yet known for certain how many victims died in this incident, however, this recording has drawn various opinions from netizens.
 

Biscuits

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Maybe it's like 19 soldiers and 500 civilians? Not sure the details. Ukraine certainly isn't shy on shelling civilians. Ukraine propaganda is in overdrive. And I won't be surprise if the Americans are allowing Ukraine to use us facilities to run propaganda all over the world.
It's greatly inconsistent with the civilian or military casualties from any previously recorded Ukranian attack.

Usually it causes losses of a couple civilians.

Until otherwise proven with later images of flooded Russian field hospitals and/or similar ones where field camp backyards are filled with discarded Russian effects, it sounds like typical psyops to give Ukrainians some morale during New Years.
 
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