The War in the Ukraine

Anlsvrthng

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Russians have been attacking Ukrainian lines with 10-20 soldiers strong units without any support for a quite a while now for whatever reason. Seems to be just a waste of manpower but they probably dont have any other options as orders are given to attack so they must attack what they got.
I think it is maybe 48.5721174515755, 38.03325381627405


It is most likelly infiltration, most likelly a drone op didn't spoted the Ukrainan units.
 

Biscuits

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Russians have been attacking Ukrainian lines with 10-20 soldiers strong units without any support for a quite a while now for whatever reason. Seems to be just a waste of manpower but they probably dont have any other options as orders are given to attack so they must attack what they got.
Imagine getting entire hospital backyards filled with bloody discarded effects when fighting tactics like that. The Ukrainian tactics must be even worse then. Maybe they just run in also but with knives and pitchforks to stab the Russian rifle chargers?

A more realistic explanation is that in a battle involving thousands or tens of thousands, a dozen men are easily confused and lost inside enemy controlled ground, forced to fall back without cover, or surrounded because they didn't spot the enemy.
 

sheogorath

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The
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says they were sent to protect embassy/consulate officials, no combat role. This occurred in April, around the time Russia withdrew from Kiev, and UK restored it's diplomatic mission in capital. This is one example of a sensationalized title to gather clicks and views.
The same article later mentions that they were back in April doing covert jobs beyond the diplomatic one, though
 

tabu

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Meanwhile the usual war of figures has begun...

They may not have shot down 54 cruisers, but it seems to me that the Russians are putting together fewer and fewer missiles for their bi-weekly 'saturation' attacks. I think it's beginning to become apparent that they now fire the ones they can produce. And anyway, they also shoot them down with manpads, which is probably the most cost effective method if you can get a number of back-up systems around sensitive targets.

 
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pmc

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Stuff that is a bit too new to make a difference in the short/medium term... Ukrainians would be better served by ATACMS...

Meanwhile the usual war of figures has begun...

They may not have shot down 54 cruisers, but it seems to me that the Russians are putting together fewer and fewer missiles for their bi-weekly 'saturation' attacks. I think it's beginning to become apparent that they now fire the ones they can produce. And anyway, they also shoot them down with manpads, which is probably the most cost effective method if you can get a number of back-up systems around sensitive targets.

cruise missile in tail chase engagement?. only hypersonic class SAMs can achieve t.
 

MortyandRick

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Stuff that is a bit too new to make a difference in the short/medium term... Ukrainians would be better served by ATACMS...

Meanwhile the usual war of figures has begun...

They may not have shot down 54 cruisers, but it seems to me that the Russians are putting together fewer and fewer missiles for their bi-weekly 'saturation' attacks. I think it's beginning to become apparent that they now fire the ones they can produce. And anyway, they also shoot them down with manpads, which is probably the most cost effective method if you can get a number of back-up systems around sensitive targets.

Wait so you're saying that a cruise missile flew by the Ukrainians and who then fired a manpad ticket after the cruise missile flew by, and the rocket was able to catch up with the cruise missile and destroy it?
 

sheogorath

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They may not have shot down 54 cruisers, but it seems to me that the Russians are putting together fewer and fewer missiles for their bi-weekly 'saturation' attacks. I think it's beginning to become apparent that they now fire the ones they can produce.
Thats one hefty assumption to make, specially when the source of number of missiles fired, the Ukranians, can't seem to do math properly seing that according to their numbers, a single missile hit at least 3 targets
And anyway, they also shoot them down with manpads,
Considering that missile exploded nowhere near the route of the missile.
You can see it?
So you reply with a totally different incident
 
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