The War in the Ukraine

Tam

Brigadier
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I posted this before but I wasn't sure what was the culprit of this attack on a Ukrainian ammo truck. Although the YT video didn't mention it, the Telegram video indicates it was a Forpost drone. There was a Ukrainian claim of a Forpost drone being shot down and a Russian claim of a Forpost involved in the attack and destruction of an MLRS system. Taking these incidents into account, Forpost drone usage has been reemerging in the battlefield after virtually disappearing since March.

 

memfisa

Junior Member
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Question regarding SEAD, with Russian using waves of UAV/cruise missiles to attack Ukrainian infrastructure, it would be the perfect time to conduct SEAD using Russian HARM equivalent as Ukraine has no choice but to respond.

So far we haven't really seen much evidence of this occuring, but rather any destruction of Ukrainian AD infrastructure is conducted using UAVs and drone corrected artillery.

Why is it so? Any degradation of UA AD network will only make future strikes more effective and actually enable the RuAF to provide much needed CAS on the front lines.
A not so obvious answer is that Ukrs can lay traps and bait SEAD aircraft into positions where they can be fired upon by concealed BUK or even manpads resulting in embarrassing losses. Probably happened numerous times already, if it hasn't then they are more incompetent than I thought

What do the Russians have, the Kh31 and the Kh58? Maximum range for these weapons is about 100 miles? This gives an opportunity to bait aircraft into traps.

Lancets are doing the job effectively, they are cheap, and there is zero risk invovled for expensive aircraft or irreplaceable lives
 
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sheogorath

Major
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What do the Russians have, the Kh31 and the Kh58? Maximum range for these weapons is about 100 miles? This gives an opportunity to bait aircraft into traps.

It will probably a job left for the Su-57 if they indeed go out of their way to supress the Patriots. While the Ukrainians could fool the Russians with fake emitters, the Russians could bait the Ukranians as well by launching a missile/shahed wave while keeping an A-50 in the air to spot what emissions are real and which ones are fake by detecting where the air defense missiles are being launched from.

Patriots are at the distinct disadvantage of being semi-mobile platforms, which limits how fast they can shoot and scoot so there is a good chance that even if the radar stopped emitting, the battery is still there.
 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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It will probably a job left for the Su-57 if they indeed go out of their way to supress the Patriots.
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Patriots are at the distinct disadvantage of being semi-mobile platforms, which limits how fast they can shoot and scoot so there is a good chance that even if the radar stopped emitting, the battery is still there.
The Patriots can just be deleted with Iskander strikes if the Russians want to.
 

Zichan

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Has anyone read the recent New York Times piece on catastrophe that was the Russian invasion?

They got hold of several interesting documents and testimonies. Lots of blame deflection and feigned ignorance of course by the interviewees. Apparently people watching CNN were better informed about the looming Russian offensive than many influential people in Russia:

“But in Russia, even among those with access to Mr. Putin or his inner circle, almost no one thought that the president was seriously considering a full-scale invasion, people close to the Kremlin said. They were sure he was bluffing.

Mr. Remchukov, the newspaper editor, was one of them. As the chairman of the 2018 election campaign of Mayor Sergei S. Sobyanin of Moscow — Mr. Putin’s former chief of staff — he felt well-connected enough to happily announce to his wife a week before the invasion, “Lena, there won’t be a war!”

“Mr. Peskov, Mr. Putin’s spokesman, insisted that he found out about the invasion only once it had begun. Likewise, Anton Vaino, Mr. Putin’s chief of staff, and Aleksei Gromov, Mr. Putin’s powerful media adviser, also said they did not know in advance, according to people who spoke to them about it.”

The best that senior aides could do was to try to read Mr. Putin’s body language. Some reported with concern that “he’s got this warlike twinkle in his eyes,” a person close to the Kremlin said.”

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