The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Here's an interesting video.


Plus a detailed comment from someone who was there in the Russian side to add:

A couple of quick sidenotes from the Russian perspective:

1) The ratio of wounded ones to the killed ones is, according to what I've heard from mobilised medics, much higher than 3 to 1, in fact it's closer to 6 to 1, simply because the vast majority of wounds are very minor wounds from shell fragmentation and debree, which are treated in a matter of a week. So they do a little trick. The doctors record these people in the medical books, they get medical treatment and occupy sleeping places in the hospitals, and their personal data in the MoD base gets updated (wounded [type] [severity] [date and location] [consequenses]) but after their quick release back to the front (usually, if the wound is so minor, just like what that militia fighter you showed has told about), they kinda disappear, because they are not accounted as WIA in the documents that get passed into the higher command. This allows to accomplish two goals at the same time - treat a real wounded soldier and make him fully able to fight again, and also lower the casualties numbers. The logic being - "that guy got his arm scratched by flying concrete, he doesn't even have real scars after we cleaned him, how the fuck does that account as a casualty if right next to him we have a guy that lost half his face so that we see his brain - THAT is a casualty". I suppose the same story is even more present on the Ukrainian side, as they fall under more extensive arty fire in fortified positions that allow to stabilize and evacuate the screamers more easily, the figure can be as high as 10 to 1.

2) The Wagner PMC casualties aren't really as high as we could have probably thought, because they didn't come to extensive use before, basically, the "flower of Popasnaya" has started blooming. They were, of course, fighting in many places, but before the storming of the Uglegorsk power plant I barely heard stories and reports of an entire operation being carried out primarily by the musicians. So I suppose their losses are higher nowadays than they were ever throughout the war, and it's now that they start to stack up. And also there's a nuance about the ZK (prisoner composed units). There were many accounts of them being shot for trying to marauder settlements or mistreat civilians. And usually these count aren't even recorded as KIA. The commander just sends a report that he needs unit resupply, and when someone asks, he says "well, you know how it goes", and everybody understands. The hierarchy of Wagner is much more fluid and adaptive than the MoD, so they can easily get away with that.

3) The separated accounting of combat losses between RF and the Republics ended on 4th of October when we accepted them as full-on Russian regions, the LPR and DPR militias are now being reorganized to be integrated into the MoD structure. Donetsk and Lugansk may keep their own accounts just as their own feat, but nowadays all their losses are added to the total RF losses in the war. 4) A lot of wounded veteran warriors are indeed being used as trainers for not only the mobilised personell, but for the conscripts. The very unhealthy and chaotic experience of the mobilization lead to immediate change in military comissariates' (and the MoD in general) leadership across all levels, and veterans are gladly accepted everywhere. For example, in my comissariate I was always greeted by an older woman that accounted my papers and my profile. As I came there during the medical comission during the draft period a week ago (you have to do that every draft season to make sure your health is in check), instead of her there was a guy in probably his late 20's with an eyepatch and a burned face."
 

baykalov

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The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny publicly appealed to Zelensky with a demand to sign a law on tougher penalties for desertion. Zaluzhny indirectly confirmed the mass flight of Ukrainian militants from the front line.


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Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi called on Dec. 19 for stricter legal liability for actions such as desertion, leaving a military unit or place of service, and disobedience to combat orders.

According to Zaluzhnyi, the current gaps in legislation, which only allow for fines or probationary sentences, are unfair and contribute to the loss of personnel, territory, and civilians on the front lines.

"Exposed areas of the front are forced to be covered by other servicemen, which leads to an increase in the loss of personnel, territories, and civilians on them. Often, lost positions have to be retaken by assaults that come at a very high cost," Zaluzhnyi stressed in a video on Facebook.

Zaluzhnyi urged President Volodymyr Zelensky to sign a law addressing these issues, stating that the military values discipline and that the proposed solution reflects the views of unit commanders.
 

sheogorath

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Video of yesterday's Mi-8 crash from the cockpit of its wingman


The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny publicly appealed to Zelensky with a demand to sign a law on tougher penalties for desertion. Zaluzhny indirectly confirmed the mass flight of Ukrainian militants from the front line.

Shouldn't this type of stuff be treated privately?. Doing it through a public video gives bad optics and undermining the chain of command.

I mean, this isn't some random dude or a merc CEO, is the commander of your armed forces publicly calling you out.
 

baykalov

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"A budget bill for $ 1.7 trillion has been submitted to the US Congress, it assumes the allocation of $ 44.9 billion in aid to Ukraine"-Reuters:

$9 billion for training, equipment, weapons and logistics and intelligence assistance to the Ukrainian military

$13 billion in economic and budgetary support for the Ukrainian authorities

$12 billion to replenish American stocks of equipment instead of transferred to Ukraine

$7 billion for European Command operations and assistance in intelligence operations

$2.4 billion for resettlement, support and English lessons for Ukrainian refugees

$126 million to prepare for a response to possible nuclear and radiation incidents in Ukraine

 

Soldier30

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There were footage of the use of heavy German self-propelled mortars Panzermörser M113 by the Ukrainian army. Earlier, Ukraine received ten such modernized armored vehicles from Lithuania. The Panzermörser M113 self-propelled mortar was developed on the basis of the American M113 armored personnel carrier in the seventies. The layout scheme of the self-propelled mortar repeats the layout of the base M113 armored personnel carrier, but instead of the troop compartment, an Israeli-made 120-mm Finnish Tampella mortar is placed. The mortar is mounted on a special swivel base and can be removed for firing from the ground. The maximum firing range of the Panzermörser M113 A1G is 6200 meters, the minimum is 500 meters. Rate of fire - 5-10 rounds per minute, ammunition - 60 minutes. The crew, which is also the calculation, consists of 5 people.


M777 howitzers of the Ukrainian army came under attack from Russian Lancet kamikaze drones. The first video, the defeat of the M777 howitzer in the Kherson region, the second M-777 howitzer was struck near the town of Chasov Yar.


Footage of the MT-LB lightly armored transporter crossing the swamp, footage of Ukrainian army soldiers. The production of the MT-LB machine began in 1966. In total, since the start of operation, more than 9,000 different versions of the MT-LB tractor have been produced, and many other combat vehicles have been created on the basis of it.


Footage of the crash of a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter, possibly Mi-24. As reported, the Mi-8 and Mi-24 of the Ukrainian Air Force worked in pairs, as a result of the departure, the Mi-8 was shot down. The crews of the helicopters tried to leave, but the Mi-8 crashed during the flight. Judging by the video, the crew of the Mi-24 helicopter landed nearby to rescue the crew.


This is a helicopter crash, but filmed by Ukrainian pilots. Telegram video.

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Tam

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Video of yesterday's Mi-8 crash from the cockpit of its wingman




Shouldn't this type of stuff be treated privately?. Doing it through a public video gives bad optics and undermining the chain of command.

I mean, this isn't some random dude or a merc CEO, is the commander of your armed forces publicly calling you out.


Exactly. Some one wants to be the Commander in Chief of the entire enchilada.
 

Tam

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Lancet drone takes out an APC. Mastiff? Not completely sure. The target is on the move and this continues to demonstrate the drone's auto tracking and track prediction capabilities.


This time, this is a Geran drone strike, and given the thermal imaging of a watching UAV, this is at night. Given the violence of the explosion, it must have hit an ammo depot.

 
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