plawolf
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Why, accuse him of being a Russian spy of course.
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The Snowden Affair
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Why, accuse him of being a Russian spy of course.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I'm not sure how many Americans realise such records exist or that the NSA might have them, if the newspapers headlined with that, I dare say there would be a far bigger outcry as half the adult population break out in a cold sweat.
wonder if NSA/FBI has a hand in this:
Michael Hastings, the Rolling Stone journalist who triggered the 2010 downfall of US Afghanistan commander General Stanley McChrystal, died in a car crash Tuesday, his employer announced.
Hastings, whose profile of McChrystal quoted the four-star general as criticising President Barack Obama and his senior advisers, died in Los Angeles. He was 33, according to his current employer, BuzzFeed.
"We are shocked and devastated by the news that Michael Hastings is gone," said Ben Smith, editor-in-chief of the news website which the late reporter joined in February last year.
"Michael was a great, fearless journalist with an incredible instinct for the story, and a gift for finding ways to make his readers care about anything he covered from wars to politicians," he added.
Mr McChrystal was summoned to Washington by Obama in June 2010 and swiftly relieved of his command after comments attributed to him and his aides in the magazine article, headlined "The Runaway General."
In the profile, Mr McChrystal aides mocked Vice President Joe Biden, called the president's national security adviser "a clown," and said the general was "disappointed" by his first meeting with Obama.
Gen McChrystal himself was quoted deriding the US special envoy to the region, Richard Holbrooke, and saying he felt "betrayed" by the ambassador to Kabul, Karl Eikenberry, who had raised pointed objections to his war strategy.
BuzzFeed editor-in-chief Smith said Hastings "wrote stories that would otherwise have gone unwritten, and without him there are great stories that will go untold."
Rolling Stone managing editor Will Dana also paid tribute to Hastings, who was a contributing editor to the bi-weekly magazine. "Great reporters exude a certain kind of electricity," he said.
Such journalists give off "the sense that there are stories burning inside them, and that there's no higher calling or greater way to live life than to be always relentlessly trying to find and tell those stories."
Mr Obama replaced Gen McChrystal in Afghanistan with David Petraeus, the talismanic general who rescued a losing war in Iraq and was one of the most decorated and respected military people of his generation.
Gen Petraeus went on to lead the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from 2011, but resigned in disgrace in November 2012 after admitting an affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell, 20 years his junior.
Michael Hastings, the Rolling Stone journalist who triggered the 2010 downfall of US Afghanistan commander General Stanley McChrystal, died in a car crash Tuesday, his employer announced.
Hastings, whose profile of McChrystal quoted the four-star general as criticising President Barack Obama and his senior advisers, died in Los Angeles. He was 33, according to his current employer, BuzzFeed.
"We are shocked and devastated by the news that Michael Hastings is gone," said Ben Smith, editor-in-chief of the news website which the late reporter joined in February last year.
"Michael was a great, fearless journalist with an incredible instinct for the story, and a gift for finding ways to make his readers care about anything he covered from wars to politicians," he added.
Mr McChrystal was summoned to Washington by Obama in June 2010 and swiftly relieved of his command after comments attributed to him and his aides in the magazine article, headlined "The Runaway General."
In the profile, Mr McChrystal aides mocked Vice President Joe Biden, called the president's national security adviser "a clown," and said the general was "disappointed" by his first meeting with Obama.
Gen McChrystal himself was quoted deriding the US special envoy to the region, Richard Holbrooke, and saying he felt "betrayed" by the ambassador to Kabul, Karl Eikenberry, who had raised pointed objections to his war strategy.
BuzzFeed editor-in-chief Smith said Hastings "wrote stories that would otherwise have gone unwritten, and without him there are great stories that will go untold."
Rolling Stone managing editor Will Dana also paid tribute to Hastings, who was a contributing editor to the bi-weekly magazine. "Great reporters exude a certain kind of electricity," he said.
Such journalists give off "the sense that there are stories burning inside them, and that there's no higher calling or greater way to live life than to be always relentlessly trying to find and tell those stories."
Mr Obama replaced Gen McChrystal in Afghanistan with David Petraeus, the talismanic general who rescued a losing war in Iraq and was one of the most decorated and respected military people of his generation.
Gen Petraeus went on to lead the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from 2011, but resigned in disgrace in November 2012 after admitting an affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell, 20 years his junior.
Replace Michael Hastings with Glenn Greenwald, advance the date three years, and you have a fairly valid scenario...
I'm not sure how many Americans realise such records exist or that the NSA might have them, if the newspapers headlined with that, I dare say there would be a far bigger outcry as half the adult population break out in a cold sweat.
The average American unknowingly commits something like 3 felonies a year, thanks to the profusion of US law.
AssassinsMace
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I think the average American is aware of it. It's the same thing where some people think that if you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't be resistant to someone demanding to invade your privacy. I know someone who lives in Texas and when this person comes to visit here in California, he drives. He told me once that when he was driving back home on the highway in the fast lane furthest to the left, police would drive up from behind, pass, and then get in front of him and drive slow in the fast lane. It's a trick because the law is you can't pass cars from the right. So if you're in the fast lane, there's no left side to pass so if you wanted to get pass the slow police cruiser, you have to do it from the right and that's a ticket. So since my friend knew that he just stayed behind the police cruiser keeping pace at a safe distance for a long time. Eventually he had to fill his gas tank so he got off the highway and the police cruiser followed him to the gas station. The police started to ask him all sorts of questions and even said his car was reported stolen. All they were doing was fishing for something to get him on because he didn't fall for any of their tricks before which pissed them off. So you can completely be law abiding and they still want to get you. Just look at the accusations of IRS audits for Tea Party organizations. If people in power have a problem with you, they're going to look for something to get you on and not that you have done anything before that warrants it. Remember the Chinese consulate staff member in Houston that was beat up by police on consulate grounds? Why was that? Because the police pulled him over in his car flashing their lights and did nothing but sit in their car. They were waiting for him to take-off so they could have an excuse to beat him up.
Interesting article out of Hong Kong:
Ho is an influential lawmaker in Hong Kong in that article, not the US.
Snowden blew the lid off of an illegal program in the United States that the Obama admin and others are continuing to try and cover. But there can be no "cover" because there can be no blanket probable cause under the Constitutuion of the US for what they are doing to all citizens and their private communications and "effects."
Snowden has been in fact much more true to his oath to the Constitution (even if he did disobey "orders"), than the others trying to protect the PRISM program.
What Snowden has done is that his revelations has led to other, much more credible whistle blowers coming forward which are largely being ignored to this point.
The Obama admin has been caught with its hands in the cookie jar clear up to their shoulder blade.
Although I do not believe that either Russia or China is doing what they are doing because they have the best interests of the United States in mind (and of course they wouln't unless is coincided with their own best interests), they are at least not rolling over for the Obama administration.
For me, it is actually humurous to watch the she-man, Obama, and his wimpy press-secretary try to take a hard line and "get tough," with the likes of Putin and the Chinese leadership. LOL!
Ho is an influential lawmaker in Hong Kong in that article, not the US.
Snowden blew the lid off of an illegal program in the United States that the Obama admin and others are continuing to try and cover. But there can be no "cover" because there can be no blanket probable cause under the Constitutuion of the US for what they are doing to all citizens and their private communications and "effects."
Snowden has been in fact much more true to his oath to the Constitution (even if he did disobey "orders"), than the others trying to protect the PRISM program.
What Snowden has done is that his revelations has led to other, much more credible whistle blowers coming forward which are largely being ignored to this point.
The Obama admin has been caught with its hands in the cookie jar clear up to their shoulder blade.
Although I do not believe that either Russia or China is doing what they are doing because they have the best interests of the United States in mind (and of course they wouln't unless is coincided with their own best interests), they are at least not rolling over for the Obama administration.
For me, it is actually humurous to watch the she-man, Obama, and his wimpy press-secretary try to take a hard line and "get tough," with the likes of Putin and the Chinese leadership. LOL!
we can imagine they are very pissed with hongkong and there will be repercussions. nobody screws with the united states and get away clean but luckily hong kong is Chinese territory so it wont be too bad. hong kong will take a hit but it wont be lethal. they could have easily handed him over but just let him go away, now that snowden is in Russia. good luck in trying to arm twist Vladimir putin!
broadsword
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At most, the US Pacific fleet might give Hong Kong a miss the next time around. No big hit. What else can they do?
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