The Kashmir conflict 2025.

defenceman

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My guess is that Pakistan was planning a large-scale coordinated attack on strategic Indian facilities using quasi-strategic weaponry (think Ra'ad, Babur, or MRBMs) or vice versa, which raises the risk of nuclear escalation. Keep in mind that Pakistan does not have a no-first-use policy. It's possible that Pakistan downgraded their plans to taking pot shots at IAF bases following US intervention.

Another possibility is that the US was concerned about its personnel that are present at select PAF bases and their administration caught wind of an IAF plan to attack those bases (or a Pakistani plan that could foment such retaliation).
Hi,
no more US personnel in any of the PAF bases anymore, but since USA and India in QUAD can be
US or other nation personnel in India, Pakistan use to have at Shahbaz base in jacobabad but not anymore
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neutralobserver

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I saw a Twitter thread that talked about Pakistan planning to attack refineries and other industrial civil infrastructure. Which would be a blow/slowdown to US trade war plans against China by making India the new assembly factory of the US.
Pakistan did mention in the press release after the retaliatory strike that it will hit High Value Targets (targets of significant economic value) if the escalation continues from Indian side.
 

iewgnem

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This is Ukrainian source, not Russian, they can only guess what's operating against them over Kursk/Belgorod area (which means threat against Sumy/Poltava). Anyway, I doubt they are much worth in BVR with what they've got.
Don't make PL-15 to sound like a Wunderwaffe from single engagement, any proper BVR is hard to beat without proper warning.
The problem isn't PL-15 being wunderwaffe, it's not and that's why China has PL-17, PL-21 and won't ever stop developing better missiles.
The problem is the west claimed Rafale was a wunderwaffe and reality was as far from that claim as you can get.
 

PandaAI

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Pakistan did mention in the press release after the retaliatory strike that it will hit High Value Targets (targets of significant economic value) if the escalation continues from Indian side.

Instead of talking about it, Pakistan should do it. You can’t reason with the Hindutva. They are as extreme as the Zionists. Only when their wet dreams of surpassing China as an economic and industrial power are going down the drain will they want a ceasefire.
 

Lethe

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I'm not sure how you can watch the Russia-Ukraine conflict these past years and still entertain the idea that a few dozen or even few hundred ballistic or cruise missile strikes can cripple the civil infrastructure and national capacity of a major nation on more than a short-term basis. The truth is that both Pakistan and India lack the capacity to do more than scratch one another by conventional means.

It's similar to these fantasies that the Americans have of crippling China with a few thousand Tomahawks. In reality, that plays out like the first act of a Godzilla movie where the military unloads everything it has into the monster and, when the smoke clears, what remains is a very pissed off monster. These are surgical instruments, not the tools of national terraforming.
 
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Captainquirk

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My guess is that Pakistan was planning a large-scale coordinated attack on strategic Indian facilities using quasi-strategic weaponry (think Ra'ad, Babur, or MRBMs) or vice versa, which raises the risk of nuclear escalation. Keep in mind that Pakistan does not have a no-first-use policy. It's possible that Pakistan downgraded their plans to taking pot shots at IAF bases following US intervention.

Another possibility is that the US was concerned about its personnel that are present at select PAF bases and their administration caught wind of an IAF plan to attack those bases (or a Pakistani plan that could foment such retaliation).
War is not good for business. US wants more manufactures move to India. Protracted war disrupts that plan. So US intervened.

If current trend continues, India is set to become the 3rd largest economy. While Pakistan is 5 years away from another bailout.
 

kwaigonegin

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Pakistan has a large undocumented informal economy - estimated to be around 400 billion in size (which is almost same as the documented economy. Pakistan needs to get rid of the cash (since that is huge part of the undocumented economy) and implement major reforms so that can be integrated into the documented economy.

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That is a given for almost all countries but certainly many if not most in the global South so from that standpoint Pakistan doesn't really stand out. Most developing countries' underground economy are HUGE!
 
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