The Civil War in Libya

MwRYum said:

That'd require a sound command and control structure, with competent officers and NCOs, with professional soldiers, and decent supply network to give it a chance to work right...but the rebels are exactly the opposite, as far as we can tell, even the defecting regulars are only slightly better, their numbers and equipment are inferior in both quantity and quality to the government troops; they falter at the government forces' artillery barrage, non coordinated attack, dismal display of weapon skills, and got their face smacked dead hard without NATO air strike tells all.

As for rumors that rebels getting training by foreign spec ops, I'd say don't bank on it so much, not at least for another 3 months, because that's the minimum to turn a civilian into infantryman; if you want to make them into specialists or officer grade material, that'd be further 3 to 6 months at least.

My 2 cents? At their present state, the rebels have no hope in winning this war themselves, they need foreign armies to do the heavy work because they're utterly incompetent to do so.

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pugachev_diver said:

A-10 and AC-130 deployed in Libya, both use GAU-8 Avenger. Primary round of choice is the PGU-14/B projectile, which is made out of depleted uranium.
I heard these rounds won't be that damaging to the public unless it is melted. Is that true?

Bet the press wouldn't be saying that if someone was shooting the stuff in American or European cities.

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Finn McCool said:

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Watch the video. US, Egyptian and UK special forces are all already there training Libyans. Although that idiot journalist claims that the rebels are being trained with "state of the art heat seeking Katyusha rockets". God journalists know nothing about weapons at all. Also, anytime the fighting stays in one spot for more than 2 hours they start saying "this is a stalemate that has absolutely no end in sight".

As for the viability of letting the rebels "go rover", I don't think it would be as hard as you think it would. Basically what I was envisioning is this: letting a bunch of small groups of technicals go off in the desert on their own, to try to flank Brega. Let them bring their own gas, food and ammo. Sure they'll be wild and ineffective, but if it's coming from an unexpected angle they'll do much better than charging straight into prepared defenses down the coastal highway. But ideally it would like fighting a swarm of bees. They'd be going in all directions causing mischief. That sort of thing fails utterly when the government troops are prepared, but the idea of coming out of the desert would be to catch them at least a bit unprepared. At the same time, military defectors will mount a conventional assault along the coast road with heavier weapons. It doesn't really matter how many untrained rebels you lose as they'll be replaced quickly and easily. Of course, any sort of military operation will work better when it's being done by trained professionals but the rebels don't have enough of those so I'm trying to think of ways they can use what they do have.

The frontline is now at Brega, where, as far as I can reckon from reading etc. and looking at the town on Google Earth, the government forces have set up a defensive line that runs through the town's university. The university was already the scene of fighting when the rebels first took Brega several weeks ago.

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