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ZeEa5KPul

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PUFF_DRAGON said:
Taiwan itself is doomed, probably within a week of first landings. That's pretty much guaranteed given balance of forces.

The question is what next?

How do you break the ensuring far blockade by the western and Japanese fleets? The PRC needs more blue water assets not for Taiwan but to basically crack Japan like a peanut or in worst case, slam a group army down on Kyushu and mow down the vestigial Japanese ground forces. Other interesting problems would be removing the USN and possibly the Indians from the Straits of Malacca and the other straits in Southeast Asia.

The capability to solve the problems after stringing up English Vegetable from a lamp post isn't there yet, otherwise I'd just say to go ahead and invade just to watch the cope and seethe on BBC and NYT.
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Precisely my view. Taiwan isn't going anywhere, its fate is already sealed. The next hurdle is building a true global military - without reservation I say that the PLA in 2049 must and will be the most powerful military on the face of the Earth. Anybody who wishes to intervene in China's reunification must then face the starkest of choices: launch a world war they would badly lose or accept the inevitable.
 
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plawolf said:
Not a snowball’s chance in hell.

Incheon was only possible because the US at the time enjoyed unchallenged air and naval dominance. NK had zero ability to even seriously threaten the landing fleet even if they knew where it was. Which they didn’t, and was the other main reason for the success of Incheon since the North Koreans were caught completely unawares and were militarily massively overstretched so had zero reserves to try to counter it.

Even if the US does manage to effect a landing, it could not possibly hope to keep that beachhead secure for sustained reinforcements and logistics support to flow in.

And even if they managed to get meaningful forces on Taiwan, they are going to be going head to head against the PLA. They will be outnumbered, outgunned and probably out-sticked by the kind of hardware the PLA can bring to bear compared to what they can realistically land. If you want massive American combat casualties, that’s the most sure fire way to do it.

The battle for Taiwan will be decided in the air and on the seas. If the US can achieve and maintain air and sea dominance, the PLA won’t be able to land and its game over. OTOH, if the PLA does manage to land in force, than that means they would have achieved air as sea dominance and it is again game over. Throwing the entire USMC into that meat grinder will only result in the entire USMC coming back in body bags, if enough of them could be scraped together to fill body bags that is.
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Mao warned Kim about Incheon and the potential of a US landing before it happened. He was ignored by the young hothead.
 
steel21

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PUFF_DRAGON said:
Taiwan itself is doomed, probably within a week of first landings. That's pretty much guaranteed given balance of forces.

The question is what next?

How do you break the ensuring far blockade by the western and Japanese fleets? The PRC needs more blue water assets not for Taiwan but to basically crack Japan like a peanut or in worst case, slam a group army down on Kyushu and mow down the vestigial Japanese ground forces. Other interesting problems would be removing the USN and possibly the Indians from the Straits of Malacca and the other straits in Southeast Asia.

The capability to solve the problems after stringing up English Vegetable from a lamp post isn't there yet, otherwise I'd just say to go ahead and invade just to watch the cope and seethe on BBC and NYT.
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First, blockade works both ways. The world probably needs China more than China needs the rest of the world.

The wonderful thing about Japan is that it's an island. There is no need to invade, threatening or lobbing some shit over their heads every once in a while works just as well.

The fucking Indians would be lucky to make it all the way into the Western Pacific without mucking up their precious fleet over some self induced safety accident. Shit, I would venture to guess their DDG runs around most of the time with no more than 1/2 load in ASCM and SAMs, judging by how stingy their munitions acquisition strategy goes.
 
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sndef888

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Anyone got a photo showing armaments of the Ta Chiang? Interested to see how they fitted 16 AShMs and 32 SAMs into a 500 ton corvette
 
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supersnoop

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sndef888 said:
Anyone got a photo showing armaments of the Ta Chiang? Interested to see how they fitted 16 AShMs and 32 SAMs into a 500 ton corvette
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NGAD is being built to solve the issues of F-35 and F-22, namely poor range to deal with Pacific combat. That doesn't seem like a good fit for Taiwan.
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The SAM replaces the AShM load. It is some mix between 16 and 32, but not max of both.

It is almost like a chess game right now. Tuo Chiang class is called the "carrier killer" by the DPP. Basically the same idea that conceived the 022 for PLAN.

PLA then develops drones able to carry YJ-83 AShM, and we subsequently see the deployment of HC-2 (TC-2N) SAM.
 
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yungho said:
I don't understand the use of indigenous here, is it pointing to the indigenous islanders of Taiwan or the indigenous mainland Chinese that moved over during the Civil War? I would understand the pro-unification in the latter, but don't understand why aboriginals Taiwanese would be pro-reunification
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it is referring to the Taiwanese aboriginals. the aborigines have a centuries old feud with the Minnan people who were the first Chinese settlers in Taiwan, and these Minnan people (who are the majority in Taiwan) are also the main supporters of Taiwan independence because of their long term power struggle with the powerful Kuomintang families who come from other parts of China in 1949 that are usually pro-unification because of their residual beliefs in Chinese nationalism. The Taiwan Aborigines have a long term "alliance" with the Kuomintang descendants because of "enemy of my enemy" so they usually vote against the Taiwan secessionists at all opportunities.

In Taiwan, the military are mostly from the old Kuomintang families and aborigines and the business community are usually Minnan people.
 
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