I think Chiang offered the Taiwanese natives a good deal in terms of giving a good land as a political reward for their anti-Japanese resistance. But more importantly, Taiwanese natives are suspicious of so called ''Taiwanese nationalism'' because they see it as Hoklo(the Chinese settlers who displaced them) nativism. They're wary of them for that reason. The way that branch of settlers( basically from Ming dynasty before the Japanese era) act like Taiwan is exclusively theirs really ticks them off.
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What will you do with a crapload of single-purpose military ships in peacetime?
Current approach does the same, is far more sustainable(self-sustainable essentially), and frees resources&personnel.
Hendrik_2000
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The same thing what you do with type75, type71, type 72 you prepare for war!. They are of simple design and cheap! They only need 25 sailor to man it so building 100 ship only require 2500 sailor which is small number
Indeed. A large-scale landing invasion of Taiwan hasn't been the priority for PRC leadership, although they have always maintained considerable capability and capacity to do so, and those capability and capacity have continued to evolve and be improved, on a more sustainable pace. The bottom-line is that they believe they can deter Taiwan and/or the US from taking drastic actions that warrant military responses. The investments into a comprehensive and more balanced military capability are better use of resources and have better overall deterrent effects than a very large fleet of single-purse ships.
That being said, the provocations and actions from the US (and Taiwan), both Trump and Biden administrations, in the last few years have fundamentally changed the strategic calculations. This has been quite obvious. As a result, we're going to see accelerated investments into the amphibious ships and other related capabilities, relative to the more normal pace.
Yes, and precisely because they're simple and cheap you can build them very quickly in case of actual conflict.
Building them prematurely will only add you financial strain, for no added benefit.
But! Cheap and simple as they are, they are numerous. And numerous things tend to be surprisingly expensive in the long run. At the worst case - you'll meet actual conflict when your fleet of small and cheap craft will be already worn out.
There are ships that you build during peacetime, there are ships you build only when you're sure you're on an escalation ladder.
Building mobilization craft during peacetime is a
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Have you ever hear the saying "you can never be fully prepared for war". War does not wait it can come anytime . The way it is stand now China does not have the sealift to land marine on the beach for an assault. Having ferry is fine but they need port and you cannot assume that there is one waiting for you! So how are you going to land the war material.
Those boat probably cost less then 2 million usd and spending 200 million is small change for 200 billion defense budget!
This is not how naval building strategy works. Precisely because "light forces"(mobilization ones) are (1)fastest to build, (2)expensive to maintain(relatively and absolutely), (3)manpower intensive, (4)have insufficient peacetime use, (5)decay quickly in their capability(mechanical obsolescence), (6)suffer the most from theoretical as opposed to practical wartime experience.
Building the wrong craft at the wrong time won't buy you more preparedness. It'll only turn a lot of precious resources away from what actually matters - and those who'll start actual buildup later will get a better force.
Many countries tried this "fast" route and suffered for it pretty hard, wasting a lot of resources (and continuous expenses) for little gain.
PLA doing naval buildup the way they're doing it only says that the quality of governance in China is actually high. People making decisions either know naval theory themselves or, at least, listen to those who do - and continue to do so for several terms of various heads of the state. This is actually impressive, and god bless those who are still blind to see it.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Have you ever hear the saying you can never be fully prepared for war. Was does not wait it can come anytime . the way it is s
So how you suggest PLA cross the Taiwan straits million army strait swimming maybe?
The need is there but maybe they conclude this is not the time to invade Taiwan
A Dual-purpose Ro-Ro fleet composed of ships built with military specs in mind produces necessary "burst" capability just fine.
Chinese civilian operators clearly do just that - it's an obvious and inherent advantage of a domestically-built merchant marine.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
You need port which is not guarantee that the Taiwanese will not dismantled it at the first sign of hostility now what?