A remake I would watch: a new Saving Private Ryan where the hero is Wu Jing, who proceeds to decimate the Nazi armies of Germany and America, and 'Ryan' is the codename of the romantic female lead.My biggest issue is taking already popular and established media and messing with it or making something new and trampling over established lore. It is like all these new and old directors cant make their content without fucking with the formula and gets mad when people call them out on it.
Who thought making the little mermaid black was the right thing to do? You know who...
Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk
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It sounds like those bad p*rn parodies you used to find in the bargain bin.
Honestly, Star Wars problem is not diversity. Leia was always a fighter even from the opening of the first movie, so it's not like female heroes is an issue. Rogue One had a "diverse" cast, and it was probably the best "new" movie.
The main problem with "new" Star Wars is just an overall lack of coherence in the story. Take the very first new movie, Force Awakens. You have this "Resistance" fighting the First Order, yet there is still a existent New Republic. Why does the government not fight on its own? It makes no sense at all. Then there is the problem with Rey. The whole Luke learning how to use the Force is a central element of the original trilogy. It is how Yoda, the iconic character is introduced. Yet, somehow Rey just knows how to use the Force right away and can engage in a Lightsaber battle with Kylo Ren. Again, makes no sense.
Personally, I could accept all these incongruencies if the follow on movie was better, but the sh*ttiness of Last Jedi was just out of this world. I've pointed out many times why I think it was garbage before, so I won't beat that dead horse again, but overall we simply do not get the gravity of something like ESB. No Han Solo being frozen, no AT-AT battle on Hoth, no Yoda, no "I am your father" scene. That was an iconic moment of cinema. Rather we get the death of Luke Skywalker in a pretty unremarkable fashion.
People don't like the prequel trilogy (personally, I don't mind them), but at least the story is very coherent. The biggest sin of the prequels is the fact that they are basically political dramas, rather than a space war.
I haven't seen all the shows, so I can't comment on that too much. However, generally I would say diversity isn't an issue. It is just the scapegoat for a bad product.
The casting of Kristin Kreuk as Lana Lang, my younger self had no problem with that, lol.
My biggest issue is taking already popular and established media and messing with it or making something new and trampling over established lore. It is like all these new and old directors cant make their content without fucking with the formula and gets mad when people call them out on it.
Who thought making the little mermaid black was the right thing to do? You know who...
You are right for the first bit, but I think Little Mermaid is a bad example. The live action Little Mermaid was fairly true to the original animated movie. Making her black was really irrelevant the story and to the Western box office numbers, it really only affected the Asian numbers. Businesswise, you can make the argument it is a bad move, but story-wise, it didn't change anything. She is a mermaid after all, being half-fish seems like a bigger deal than being black IMO
People don't really criticize it, but they made Nick Fury black in the MCU. Nick Fury was originally a white guy in the comics (now there is also black Nick Fury Jr. which is his son). People don't make a big deal about it, because Samuel L. Jackson is great at playing no-nonsense tough guys, which is the essence of Nick Fury's character.
The sequel trilogy I will pretend doesn't exist. That's how bad it was. The Force Awakens was just a retread of A New Hope and was just boring as it was just playing it safe in a bad way.
I actually liked the prequels being more political as it was fundamentally a tale of how the Republic became the Empire, not through violent overthrow but gradual takeover of the government from within. The execution of it in the movies could definitely have been better and less rushed, with awkward dialogue, but at least there was a coherent vision for the trilogy. That vision was completely absent in the sequel trilogy which lurched from one disjointed movie to the next with no meta-plot. Pretty amazing how they could produce something so bad considering the wealth of detail and information they had to work with. They are now belatedly trying to salvage with Thrawn but that is constrained by the existence of the sequel trilogy. I really don't see how they can work around that unless they retcon it out of existence.
I blame J.J. Abrams. He ruined both Star Wars and Star Trek. He doesn’t understand the source materials and just pull stuffs out of his ass.
The way I see it, there's an oppression of gingers going on, they're the only group in Hollywood who's no longer represented
Pale black girls making bank right now...
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It's like political correctness. It's been around a lot longer than you think but the Republicans gave it a name to make it sound like it was new and foreign because they're not the beneficiaries of it now. They had no problem when John Wayne was playing Genghis Khan. Anybody been watching House of the Dragon? Now the anti-woke crowd has a problem with black people being able to ride dragons because dragons don't just let anyone ride them you know. In some places it use to be you couldn't ride a horse if you weren't white. Horses to some were seen as majestic creatures just like dragons are seen. That's why they were only reserved for privileged people to ride.
If you watch stuff like Star Trek, don't you think Chinese would be all over space? You see more aliens than you see Asians. And like Star Wars, Star Trek isn't popular in China either to which the producers of Star Trek wish were otherwise. They make so many different series for Star Trek, why don't they make a Star Trek series for China only where most of the cast is Chinese if they want Chinese to be fans? When China first sent a Taikonaut into space, there were Americans that said the rocket should've been shot down. Yes Westerners see China going to space as cheapening the achievement thus were against it and all Chinese ventures into space. Yeah and some don't believe that there were ever laws that prevented non-whites from riding a horse...
Like I mentioned before, Western science fiction wants to promote their idea of openness but it only comes from a Western perspective. Look at the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. You think aliens would care to save the animals while looking at humans with disdain destroying the Earth? That's how Western animal rights activists think. Microscopic organisms are just as innocent as unintelligent animals. I'm sure the aliens didn't save them all while wanting to destroy the Earth.
The West is full of hypocrites. Westerners are hiding behind freedom... only for themselves. They ain't as noble as they think they are. Hitler can argue he was a defender of freedom by the West's definition. Who's not going to believe Hitler wasn't for freedom for himself? Westerners will deny the freedom of others if it interferes with what they want. They're no different from any dictator they vilify.
If you watch stuff like Star Trek, don't you think Chinese would be all over space? You see more aliens than you see Asians. And like Star Wars, Star Trek isn't popular in China either to which the producers of Star Trek wish were otherwise. They make so many different series for Star Trek, why don't they make a Star Trek series for China only where most of the cast is Chinese if they want Chinese to be fans? When China first sent a Taikonaut into space, there were Americans that said the rocket should've been shot down. Yes Westerners see China going to space as cheapening the achievement thus were against it and all Chinese ventures into space. Yeah and some don't believe that there were ever laws that prevented non-whites from riding a horse...
Like I mentioned before, Western science fiction wants to promote their idea of openness but it only comes from a Western perspective. Look at the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. You think aliens would care to save the animals while looking at humans with disdain destroying the Earth? That's how Western animal rights activists think. Microscopic organisms are just as innocent as unintelligent animals. I'm sure the aliens didn't save them all while wanting to destroy the Earth.
The West is full of hypocrites. Westerners are hiding behind freedom... only for themselves. They ain't as noble as they think they are. Hitler can argue he was a defender of freedom by the West's definition. Who's not going to believe Hitler wasn't for freedom for himself? Westerners will deny the freedom of others if it interferes with what they want. They're no different from any dictator they vilify.