Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk

Dune Messiah has way less plot than Dune. It can likely fit into a single movie.

I think he should try doing movies for everything until at least (including) Children of Dune. The other books are also doable in movie form. But at the rate the director is making the movies, he wouldn't finish the original series in less than two decades.

So I started watching The Orville season 3 on Disney+. I know it's been out for a while but it was on Hulu which I didn't have but Disney bought Fox so now I can see it on Disney+. I don't know what to think of this show. It was created by Seth MacFarlane known for more his comedies than anything serious. So the first episode of season 3 had a robot commit suicide because the crew was treating him bad because at the end of the previous season, this robot's robot race killed a lot of people. All the characters took it seriously. Very weird. In a previous episode they spent a lot of time on gay alien sex because one of the crew had a personal problem he was dealing with. The whole thing feels like a joke waiting for a punchline that never comes.

Another remake of this movie...? Personally the original The Day the Earth Stood Still I put up there with the of best Sci-Fi movies simply because what a message during that time it was filmed. I'm sure back then and today the makers would be labelled as communists.

The Acolyte season finale just started streaming. What a mess! Not sure what the point was. You have Jedi that conspired and covered up crimes they committed that would've turned them to the dark side yet they only suffered a guilty conscience. Also the Jedi here basically kidnapped children. First they say it's the law that they get to take force sensitive children from their families but then they say also that they don't force it on parents if they don't want to give up their children. Was the point was there is no absolute good or evil but everything is the middle?

AssassinsMace said:

The Acolyte season finale just started streaming. What a mess! Not sure what the point was. You have Jedi that conspired and covered up crimes they committed that would've turned them to the dark side yet they only suffered a guilty conscience. Also the Jedi here basically kidnapped children. First they say it's the law that they get to take force sensitive children from their families but then they say also that they don't force it on parents if they don't want to give up their children. Was the point was there is no absolute good or evil but everything is the middle?

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Besides being such a steamy pile of poop that I avoided that series altogether (The Mandalorian is sill the franchise's saving grace in my opinion), on the "is it everything is the middle?" question, one should remember an important concept called "...from a certain point of view" first introduced to us all by none other than Obi-Wan Kenobi.

MwRYum said:

(The Mandalorian is sill the franchise's saving grace in my opinion),

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LMAO

IMHO, the Star Wars franchise is dead; killed off on purpose. I'm not sure why Disney's investors haven't sued Disney into oblivion. I've stopped watching Mandalorian after it's second season as I read numerous problems with the third season. I'm glad I avoided The Acolyte. However, I'm interested in finding out how Andor's final season would turn out. I was pleasantly surprised thus far with Andor.

Kathleen Kennedy should have been fired long ago.

Star Wars has become one of those parks where you find yourself more preoccupied with trying not to step into goosesh*t rather than enjoying the place itself.

Why she hasn't been fired is probably the financial performance is still positive. Probably sustainably so.

They called it the Acolyte because they said it going to be from the perspective of the Sith. The only thing where the storytelling followed that idea was the Sith side survived and it was the main Jedi characters that all died. I didn’t really care for the twin protagonists especially when they were children in the flashbacks. They were quite annoying crying for mommy all the time.

I also watched the series finale of Star Trek Discovery. I didn’t have all the hate for it like others had but it was off where they did seem to want to make sure all letters of the sexual alphabet were represented in the characters. Which reminds me about the Acolyte wondering if they were trying to insert a gay Jedi which showed up in the last couple episodes.

The irony is that they want to make in science fiction that the galaxy is diverse and inclusive but it’s only from a Westernized perspective. Aliens talk and think like a Westerner.

AssassinsMace said:

They called it the Acolyte because they said it going to be from the perspective of the Sith. The only thing where the storytelling followed that idea was the Sith side survived and it was the main Jedi characters that all died. I didn’t really care for the twin protagonists especially when they were children in the flashbacks. They were quite annoying crying for mommy all the time.

I also watched the series finale of Star Trek Discovery. I didn’t have all the hate for it like others had but it was off where they did seem to want to make sure all letters of the sexual alphabet were represented in the characters. Which reminds me about the Acolyte wondering if they were trying to insert a gay Jedi which showed up in the last couple episodes.

The irony is that they want to make in science fiction that the galaxy is diverse and inclusive but it’s only from a Westernized perspective. Aliens talk and think like a Westerner.

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Western neoliberal garbage fiction, especially in fantasy and sci-fi these days, is mostly about "diversity" in the sense that it pretends "conservative" forces either don't exist or have no power. They're all fantasies about what the universe would be like after the forces of liberalism have put the forces of conservatism to extinction. That's why their TV shows have become absolute garbage. It's pure wish casting. Old Star Trek openly embraces the fact that conservativism is the default force and liberal garbage is fringe. If they even accurately reflected the world as it is today, you can see that the vast majority of humanity lives in a conservative and conventional context. Hell, even the vast majority of economic activity takes place in a conservative or conventional context. For the most part, it's only the most decaying, corrupt, and disfunctional parts of the world that are about alphabet soup and DEI. In that sense, the neoliberal parts of Western and vassalized society have completely lost the plot.