Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk

paintgun

Senior Member
Disney bought Lucas to buy the StarWars IP
add to that Pixar, Marvel

True, but will the new Star War movie script and writing improve or water down to Disney level (anything to get a rated PG) that's the question I'm wondering?

Tron, Avengers, Ironman
Pretty good adaptations on big names, i think they are going to get a good one done, can't do worse than Jar Jar Binks right?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
If either the Jedi or the Sith uses their lightsaber to decapitate Jar Jar Binks in episode 7, I'll go see the movie 10 times.

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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The internet is just exploding with the Star Wars news. Here's a theory that showed up on a fanboy site that's just pure speculation but pretty intuitive if it turns out to be true. Yeah three years until the next movie is released seems pretty quick so the ball must have been rolling earlier than the official announcement. I had heard Kathleen Kennedy was taking over LucasFilm months ago but didn't add two and two together because of the notion George Lucas would never sell out to Hollywood.


LV_426 here.

In case you haven’t seen it yet, I figured I’d forward my silly little theory from the talkbacks that Damon Lindelof and Brad Bird might be the writer/director team for Star Wars Episode 7.

My theory...

Damon Lindelof and Brad Bird are already set-up as the writer/director team for Star Wars Episode 7.

The reason for this speculation is that there was a spec script project called 1952 that Damon Lindelof sold to Disney recently (see link below).

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Some specifics from the First Showing article that might point to my theory:

"Brad Bird and fan-favorite film writer Damon Lindelof are teaming up for a new project at Disney. Bird, coming off of his first live-action with Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol, is set to direct the mysterious large scale sci-fi project 1952. Whether that's just a codename or an actual year related to the story, we're not yet sure, but the project "has multi-platform aspirations" meaning Disney wants it for theme parks, retail stores and theaters. It'll no doubt be a "big tentpole" movie, and with these two storytellers leading the way, it is definitely something to watch for."

So in addition to the new Star Wars films, we have theme park and retail store aspirations? I don't know about you, but this sounds like it could be the next phase of Star Wars via the Disney model.

Again from First Showing:

"Now we know that Brad Bird is definitely on-board to direct, but other than that, still no plot details. Anyone? It sounds like Disney has something on their hands that could be huge, and they're making sure to build it from the ground up properly, with the right talent top to bottom. I just wish we knew any extra details about what it was actually about."

My theory is that 1952 is a codename for Star Wars episode 7, 8, and 9. Just as Blue Harvest was used as a working title to throw the media off when Return of the Jedi was in production.

So why this mysterious project known as 1952 though? Because the title alone seems to refer to the year 1952, just as titles like Kubrick's landmark of science fiction 2001: A Space Odyssey or Wong-kar Wai's romantic sci-fi piece 2046 refer to specific years in which the films take place. What happened in 1952 then that makes this seem logical? What I think is the obvious event is an incident where supposedly some UFOs “buzzed the tower” Maverick and Goose style if you will, over Washington D.C between the days of July 19–20 and July 26–27. This incident, known as the Washington flap, is precisedly the type of project that a writer like Damon Lindelof would seem to be interested in (retro, sci-fi, conspiracy theory-laden, and infused with the American mythology of the UFO phenomenon). Disney’s 1952, if it is actually about this supposed UFO fly-over of Washington DC, sounds interesting. Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing this type of 1950’s UFO paranoia done up in big budget Hollywood style via Brad Bird. The thing is, could it be that Disney, Lucas, Lindelof, and Bird needed a really good cover story to mask their involvement with brand spanking new Star Wars? I think this could very well be a ruse not unlike the Blue Harvest concept, which was very thorough in covering up the production of Return of the Jedi.

Another factor is that Mark Hamill was born on September 25th of 1951. I'm guessing that since this story will probably have Luke as the Obi-Wan type of mentor as many around the world are suggesting, that it was a cute little Lindelofian trick to throw people by having the fake title be of a year so close to both Luke Skywalker's birthday and the implication of a possible movie connection to the Washington D.C. UFO fly-over. Lindelof and Disney figured it would be a better ruse to switch the year of this fictitious film from 1951 to 1952, so as to steer speculation towards the UFO fly-by concept.

Oh, and we can’t forget that Qui-Gon, I mean Liam Neeson, was born in 1952. Perhaps a connection, or maybe I’ve watched Aliens too many times and the ping ping ping of the motion tracker has driven me insane?

Again, they're already setting up a whole trilogy that kicks off in 2015, which unless Star Wars Episode 7 is a holiday theatrical release ala Bond or The Hobbit, that leaves only about two-and-a-half years for Disney and the new Kathleen Kennedy captained Lucasfilm to get a script finished to a polished state, put into production, posted (in 3D), and released. For all we know, it is likely that the script has been written and polished and Brad Bird is directing while Lindelof is involved in some capacity as a producer at this point. Pre-production could very well be underway if we look at this current time table of about two years from now as a release date. We're at the end of October 2012. Let's say Star Wars episode 7 is going to be released in the middle of summer, say mid-July. That leaves only two more months for 2012 (minus a couple weeks for all the holiday loss of productivity). Then another 28-30 months if they were to release in mid-July 2015. After all, you’ve got to leave time for prints and marketing and director and writer/producer hyping and interviews). Even if Disney throws money at this, it is not something they will take lightly, as getting Episode 7 drastically wrong will be a huge problem for them and future plans to grow Star Wars into an even bigger cash-eating wormhole, er, I mean fiscally sound investment in intellectual property.

So I'd say this also could explain how Disney already has the basics worked out in terms of being able to announce Episodes 7-9 and more Star Wars films after those every two to three years apart. I wager that Lindelof sat down with George Lucas months ago after his Prometheus work ended, and hashed out the basic story structure for this new trilogy, and perhaps even some of the ideas for stuff that comes after. Just like he sat alongside Ridley Scott and rewrote John Spaihts' Alien Engineers* script, which became a film many of us talkbackers love to bitch and moan about, Prometheus.

-- Call me LV_426 and Nuke ‘em from orbit, cause it’s the only way to be sure.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Now word from Mark Hamill is he and Carrie Fisher were invited to dinner for a meeting by George Lucas last August where Lucas informed them that the last trilogy was going to be filmed. Unclear if it meant they were going to be involved in any of the movies. Also it's been reported that these will be original stories and not from any officially sanctioned books that were written.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Originally Posted by jackliu
If either the Jedi or the Sith uses their lightsaber to decapitate Jar Jar Binks in episode 7, I'll go see the movie 10 times.

^^^ Now that is funny!!

Here's a possible beginning to a plot. fast foward 25 years.. Princess Lei is married to Han Solo...she had twins 25 years ago..both now Jedi's.. But guess what. Only one is a Jedi.. the other will become a Sith...Plenty there to work with.
 
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Miragedriver

Brigadier
^^^ Now that is funny!!

Here's a possible beginning to a plot. fast foward 25 years.. Princess Lei is married to Han Solo...she had twins 25 years ago..both now Jedi's.. But guess what. Only one is a Jedi.. the other will become a Sith...Plenty there to work with.

You need to write some new Star Wars book in your retirement!
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Personally I think they should have a clean slate and just have the previous movies be history and not rehash old storylines. If they're going to have any of the cast of the original involved they should not be the center and most effective as a surprise appearance. If they want to repeat plots, then it should be something like the Republic is still in turmoil after the fall of the Emperor, Luke went missing, Leia didn't get adequate training so she couldn't teach anyone to be a Jedi and someone down the Han/Leia line meets a Jedi and teaches the kid about the force but it turns out the Jedi is actually a Sith. Then when all hell breaks loose Luke shows up to turn the kid back and help foil the plot of the Sith. You find out the Jedi is a Sith Lord by the end of the first movie, Luke shows up or reveals himself by the end of the second, and resolution in the third.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Personaly I think the Star wars Wars line was set with the end of return of the Jedi. If I was too be interested in a Starwars new movie only thing I could think of would be too go back too the Rise of the Republic, the birth of the Jedi and the Sith... A young-ling Yoda.
 
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