Star Wars & Sc-Fi Talk
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Lieutenant General
Is it me or is the story lines for the pre-Luke Skywalker era was much better organised and written then anything Episode 4-6 could muster?
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Well that's because 4-6 were groundbreaking in multiple ways. You didn't have the "blockbuster" concept in the movie industry before Episode 4 so they never thought of big budgets. Everything was done by the cheap for sci-fi. So a more in-depth story was going to naturally cost more. In that era it was probably seen as impossible to film 1-3. That's if you believe George Lucas had the whole story down beforehand. Also you have to remember that the Clone Wars TV show is done by other people than George Lucas who just takes a supervisor role only.
^^^ 100% correct!
I have the entire Star Wars saga on blue ray disc. Included in that is Mr Lucas explaining his original ideas on the films. He honestly was not sure which way to take the series. They evolved through his and others ideas.
He had a difficult time selling his ideas to Hollywood.
I have the entire Star Wars saga on blue ray disc. Included in that is Mr Lucas explaining his original ideas on the films. He honestly was not sure which way to take the series. They evolved through his and others ideas.
He had a difficult time selling his ideas to Hollywood.
Equation
Lieutenant General
True, but you really don't need an exponential amount of money to make a good sci-fi movie. I mean look at "ALIEN" directed by Ridley Scott has an amazing story plus pretty good cinema shots and background, way before CGI was invented and it still scares some people who grew up with today's graphic images on films.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Personally the best sci-fi movie IMO was the original The Day the Earth Stood Still. When it comes to special effects... it was cheesy. But that's not what I just look at as a good sci-fi movie. They say good sci-fi reflects what's going on in society today no matter if it's set in modern times or in the future. That's what that movie did and it was against the norm of the time where alien invasion movies were allegories to get people paranoid of communist invasion. On the other hand the remake of The Day the Earth Stood was one of the worst sci-fi movies. Aliens are going to bother to care about animals gathering them like Noah's Ark just so they can destroy humankind? That's comes from the mind of a sociopathic animal-loving liberal. And what saved the Earth? Keanu Reeves' Klaatu sees a stepson can find out he can love his stepmother. The original didn't take a side. It didn't make it out that the aliens thought they were morally superior because they came from a position that they had just experienced the horrors of war. All they did was give a warning that they didn't care if humankind destroyed itself but because they were on the verge of space flight and if they managed to last long enough and go into space with that attitude, they would destroy the Earth.
Good pick from that 1950's Sci-Fi genera.
I enjoyed the original "War of the Worlds" and "Forbidden Planet".. I'd say Forbidden Planet special affects were ahead of it's time. War of the Worlds had a very strong and tense story in IMO.
Of more modern movies the best sci-fi movies since the 1970s IMO are "The Empire Strikes Back" and "I Robot" . I'd love to see a sequel to I Robot. The end of the film certainly was left open for a sequel.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Also Them, Earth vs the Flying Saucers, Rod Serlings Twilight Zone... There was also a movie I forgot what's the title where aliens took over human brains and popped out from their heads where the spinal cord were their tails and grew two antenna eyes and they slithered their way across the floor. I saw that on TV when I was a little tike and it was nightmarish.
That may have been The Outer Limits..not sure. they did some very freaky stuff on that show.
vesicles
Colonel
I don't know about you guys, but I just HATE it they named them episodes 4-6. They are always episodes 1-3 in my mind... The new ones should be -1 to -3... for all they do is to diminish the greatness of the original.