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manqiangrexue

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People can have different opinions, and I don't need to prove anything here. From what I see from previous Olympics and world championships, they have this trend of conserving energy for the relay events, by giving up on certain events. They do regard relay events as more important as winning team events shows how strong a country is in that event.
I wanna bring your attention to Tang Qianting. She just fought Ruta in the 50m breaststroke but got silver by 0.11 seconds, which honestly isn't that close for a super sprint event but she set an Asian record at the semis and set another one here. She is set to swim again in the 4x100 women's medley relay in 1 hour 40 minutes. They were confident putting her into 2 races that close to each other without fear of compromising either and this is how they do it when there is hope for gold, or at least a medal, in both. Pulling her out of this one sacrificing the individual (possibly gold) medal so she can "conserve energy" for the next one just wouldn't make sense.
 

henrik

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I wanna bring your attention to Tang Qianting. She just fought Ruta in the 50m breaststroke but got silver by 0.11 seconds, which honestly isn't that close for a super sprint event but she set an Asian record at the semis and set another one here. She is set to swim again in the 4x100 women's medley relay in 1 hour 40 minutes. They were confident putting her into 2 races that close to each other without fear of compromising either and this is how they do it when there is hope for gold, or at least a medal, in both. Pulling her out of this one sacrificing the individual (possibly gold) medal so she can "conserve energy" for the next one just wouldn't make sense.

They just could not find another swimmer nearly as quick as Tang Qianting for the relay. Tang Qianting is becoming another Qin Haiyang.
 

azn_cyniq

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I wanna bring your attention to Tang Qianting. She just fought Ruta in the 50m breaststroke but got silver by 0.11 seconds, which honestly isn't that close for a super sprint event but she set an Asian record at the semis and set another one here. She is set to swim again in the 4x100 women's medley relay in 1 hour 40 minutes. They were confident putting her into 2 races that close to each other without fear of compromising either and this is how they do it when there is hope for gold, or at least a medal, in both. Pulling her out of this one sacrificing the individual (possibly gold) medal so she can "conserve energy" for the next one just wouldn't make sense.
That makes Tang the 4th fastest female 50m breaststroke swimmer of all time. She's only 19, so she still has so much potential
 

getready

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China has equaled the almighty USA in the total gold record at a single world championships. This is absolutely insane. China is not only good at diving and artistic swimming, but also regular swimming as well. Hopefully this success continues at the Olympics this year. It would be great to get more golds than the US. The motherland is not only militarily strong, but also athletically strong. Makes me soooo happy hahaha. This is not the weak man of Asia anymore.
Need to tamper expectations abit. This is a precursor to the Olympics but I would say not a good barometer to predict how the medals will be distributed. Almost all the big teams like US Aus China and UK are lacking many of their big stars in this meet. We will see how it goes in the national trials for each country. Who is in top form and who isn’t.

US biggest strength is still their great depth. They have many good swimmers and some great swimmers. This means they have a big advantage when it comes to the relay events and can afford to rest their stars in the prelims. It also mean they will likely lead the total medal count.

China on other hand is weak when it comes to depth. Which was shown 4x100 and 4x200 free relay events. China sent out the same team for both which is quite incredible, I don’t think it’s been done before afaik but also shows they had no choice as there is not much depth.

And in the mixed medley 4x100m men’s relay when they bombed out in the prelims cuz their backstroke leg was so weak. If Xu Jiayu who skipped this worlds meet is not in top form in Paris then the relay events will be in trouble cuz China’s next best backstroker is a lot worse than him. Plus China have to find a top level butterfly swimmer too which weakest event for men.

Having said all that, I’m also very happy at development of Chinese swimming at elite level. As long time Chinese swim fan who started watching back during the lackluster era, it is very gratifying to see how ot is now. I remember watching way back when zhang Lin was China best male swimmer and Sun Yang was only about 18 getting into his first Olympic final although he finished dead last then.

Back then Chinese swimming was spearheaded by Chinese female swimmers like the incredible butterflyer Liu Zige, breaststroker Luo xuejuan, and the formidable freestyle team. Men’s side though was very weak. I remember hearing some fan lamented that they should combine Chinese women’s team with Japanese men’s team which dominated Asian swimming at that time to form a super Asian team and compete with the whites. So it’s really satisfying for me to see Chinese men’s swimming finally rising up and forming a great swimming nation together with the women team. Although I believe men’s side achievements have eclipsed the women’s actually this time.

strange, as I thought they followed the swimming.
The aquatic championships usually start with the artistic swimming or synchronized swimming and then regular diving. Then the regular swimming events. I’m not sure about the high diving though.

Speaking of artistic swimming, anyone know if Russians are allowed to compete in Paris ? Tbh if so, gold should be theirs as they are traditionally the best in that event. So that’s probably few less gold for China.
 

pbd456

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Need to tamper expectations abit. This is a precursor to the Olympics but I would say not a good barometer to predict how the medals will be distributed. Almost all the big teams like US Aus China and UK are lacking many of their big stars in this meet. We will see how it goes in the national trials for each country. Who is in top form and who isn’t.

US biggest strength is still their great depth. They have many good swimmers and some great swimmers. This means they have a big advantage when it comes to the relay events and can afford to rest their stars in the prelims. It also mean they will likely lead the total medal count.

China on other hand is weak when it comes to depth. Which was shown 4x100 and 4x200 free relay events. China sent out the same team for both which is quite incredible, I don’t think it’s been done before afaik but also shows they had no choice as there is not much depth.

And in the mixed medley 4x100m men’s relay when they bombed out in the prelims cuz their backstroke leg was so weak. If Xu Jiayu who skipped this worlds meet is not in top form in Paris then the relay events will be in trouble cuz China’s next best backstroker is a lot worse than him. Plus China have to find a top level butterfly swimmer too which weakest event for men.

Having said all that, I’m also very happy at development of Chinese swimming at elite level. As long time Chinese swim fan who started watching back during the lackluster era, it is very gratifying to see how ot is now. I remember watching way back when zhang Lin was China best male swimmer and Sun Yang was only about 18 getting into his first Olympic final although he finished dead last then.

Back then Chinese swimming was spearheaded by Chinese female swimmers like the incredible butterflyer Liu Zige, breaststroker Luo xuejuan, and the formidable freestyle team. Men’s side though was very weak. I remember hearing some fan lamented that they should combine Chinese women’s team with Japanese men’s team which dominated Asian swimming at that time to form a super Asian team and compete with the whites. So it’s really satisfying for me to see Chinese men’s swimming finally rising up and forming a great swimming nation together with the women team. Although I believe men’s side achievements have eclipsed the women’s actually this time.


The aquatic championships usually start with the artistic swimming or synchronized swimming and then regular diving. Then the regular swimming events. I’m not sure about the high diving though.

Speaking of artistic swimming, anyone know if Russians are allowed to compete in Paris ? Tbh if so, gold should be theirs as they are traditionally the best in that event. So that’s probably few less gold for China.
Wiki page of artistic swimming olympic qualifications does not have ROC, it would benefits China for gold potential
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
Gold no. 23 !

China won gold in the mixed 4x100m freestyle relay.

Final:
  1. China (Pan, Wang, Li, Yu) — 3:21.18
  2. Australia (Taylor, Cartwright, Jack, Throssell) — 3:21.78
  3. United States (Armstrong, King, Curzan, Douglass) — 3:22.28
  4. Canada — 3:23.79
  5. Italy — 3:24.40
  6. Netherlands — 3:25.14
  7. Slovakia — 3:29.88
  8. Hong Kong — 3:31.13

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So one of our cities Hong Kong with 8million equal in swimming prowess as japan a country of 100million+.
 

Randomuser

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So one of our cities Hong Kong with 8million equal in swimming prowess as japan a country of 100million+.
Olympic sports are very top heavy. You just need one genius and it can change everything. That why the entire might of India came 48th in 2020 Olympics while just Hong Kong City came 49th.

It's different from team sports where you need 11 geniuses and they need to work together.
 

pbd456

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Each NOC can only send up to 6 participants to Paris Olympics in weigh lifting, it will definitely limit China potential for gold medal.

Weight lifting will be gone in 2028 Los Angeles and 2024 is the only chance for china to obtain more gold medal than US until 2032 (Beijing does not count due to home advantage)
 
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